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This photo caption in the Times

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examworries2026 · 27/04/2026 22:33

Front page a few days ago for Prince Louis’ birthday.

Does anyone else think “to mark him turning eight” doesn’t sound right?

Surely it should be “to mark his eight birthday” or “to mark his turning eight”?

This is pretty pedantic even for me but wanted to know what others think.

This photo caption in the Times
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Pinkissmart · 27/04/2026 22:47

So many poorly written articles- I despair.

FrostyMorn · 27/04/2026 22:51

Yes, I think your second suggestion, which would be the possessive plus the gerund, would be correct but this usage is very much dying out.

KnickerlessParsons · 27/04/2026 22:56

I would have said “to mark his turning eight”, but I am old.

examworries2026 · 27/04/2026 23:42

Thank you.

Of course my first suggestion above should have said “eighth” not “eight” 🤦🏻‍♀️ was typing quickly waiting to collect DD from her sport.

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examworries2026 · 27/04/2026 23:42

KnickerlessParsons · 27/04/2026 22:56

I would have said “to mark his turning eight”, but I am old.

That looks right to me. Don’t know how old you are but I am in my 40s!

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Buscobel · 28/04/2026 09:00

KnickerlessParsons · 27/04/2026 22:56

I would have said “to mark his turning eight”, but I am old.

I agree!

grumpygrape · 28/04/2026 09:48

It's only in recent years I've been aware of people 'turning' an age. Maybe I've been deaf ?

BillieWiper · 28/04/2026 10:15

It sounds ridiculous anyway. The actual meaning behind it. Like why would anyone ever need to 'mark' somebody turning 8?! However they phrase it. He's just a child who happens to be related to the RF. 'Mark him turning 8'. Lol. Should there be a national parade and a new bank holiday in commemoration of this monumental milestone of reaching 8 years old?!

tnorfotkcab · 28/04/2026 10:25

BillieWiper · 28/04/2026 10:15

It sounds ridiculous anyway. The actual meaning behind it. Like why would anyone ever need to 'mark' somebody turning 8?! However they phrase it. He's just a child who happens to be related to the RF. 'Mark him turning 8'. Lol. Should there be a national parade and a new bank holiday in commemoration of this monumental milestone of reaching 8 years old?!

No.... But he is of national interest, and will be important in the future when William and subsequently, George, is king.

The public need to "know" him and warm to him as well as G and C.

And this stops the paparazzi etc sneaky photos etc.

Nobody really knows what Archie and Lilibet look like,and do not and will not give a shiny about them (or Harry) when William is king. And Harry's family will have no role, so the RF needs to "promote" the three heirs.

ginasevern · 28/04/2026 11:21

I would have said "to mark his eighth birthday". Apart from the "him" bit, the word turning is unncessary and clunky.

BillieWiper · 28/04/2026 11:35

tnorfotkcab · 28/04/2026 10:25

No.... But he is of national interest, and will be important in the future when William and subsequently, George, is king.

The public need to "know" him and warm to him as well as G and C.

And this stops the paparazzi etc sneaky photos etc.

Nobody really knows what Archie and Lilibet look like,and do not and will not give a shiny about them (or Harry) when William is king. And Harry's family will have no role, so the RF needs to "promote" the three heirs.

Edited

Yeah I know but to me it's cheesy and daft.

examworries2026 · 28/04/2026 13:40

ginasevern · 28/04/2026 11:21

I would have said "to mark his eighth birthday". Apart from the "him" bit, the word turning is unncessary and clunky.

I think this is correct. I agree with a PP that “turning eight” is modern phrasing and “him turning eight” is just awful.

Might have to channel my 80 y old dad and write to the Times…

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ginasevern · 28/04/2026 13:55

examworries2026 · 28/04/2026 13:40

I think this is correct. I agree with a PP that “turning eight” is modern phrasing and “him turning eight” is just awful.

Might have to channel my 80 y old dad and write to the Times…

I'm 70 if that counts, can I have the job please!

PleasantPedant · 28/04/2026 14:59

Does anyone else think “to mark him turning eight” doesn’t sound right?
Sounds correct to me. I don't use the expression but I know people who do.

Surely it should be “to mark his eighth birthday”
“to mark his turning eight”? I think him is correct not his.

BrickBiscuit · 28/04/2026 15:24

Yes, ‘his’ not ‘him’. I don’t know all the technical terms, but turning eight is something you do. What is being marked is him having done it. Hence the gerund. The focus is on the person having achieved it, not the birthday itself, so ‘mark his eighth birthday’ would divert the emphasis.

upinaballoon · 30/04/2026 20:22

BillieWiper · 28/04/2026 10:15

It sounds ridiculous anyway. The actual meaning behind it. Like why would anyone ever need to 'mark' somebody turning 8?! However they phrase it. He's just a child who happens to be related to the RF. 'Mark him turning 8'. Lol. Should there be a national parade and a new bank holiday in commemoration of this monumental milestone of reaching 8 years old?!

I think it would be a bit much to have a new bank holiday to celebrate Louis' birthday. Has someone suggested it? I think the friends and relations of any eight-year-old would, like, want to mark the birthday in some way, though.

If it were James's birthday I would be happy to write James's so why did I not want to write Louis's birthday? Can any pedants help on that one?

BillieWiper · 01/05/2026 14:59

upinaballoon · 30/04/2026 20:22

I think it would be a bit much to have a new bank holiday to celebrate Louis' birthday. Has someone suggested it? I think the friends and relations of any eight-year-old would, like, want to mark the birthday in some way, though.

If it were James's birthday I would be happy to write James's so why did I not want to write Louis's birthday? Can any pedants help on that one?

I think it's because Louis's can kind of scan as Louise. So it sounds like a different/female name. James's doesn't have that feeling?

PleasantPedant · 01/05/2026 16:11

@BillieWiper , Louis' birthday is ok but the s is silent so maybe Louis's would be more logical.
James' birthday and James's birthday are both correct.

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/05/2026 16:14

ginasevern · 28/04/2026 11:21

I would have said "to mark his eighth birthday". Apart from the "him" bit, the word turning is unncessary and clunky.

That's what I would have said. You don't have a party for your own child 'to mark their turning eight'. It's for their birthday.

Emptyandsad · 06/05/2026 21:01

examworries2026 · 27/04/2026 23:42

Thank you.

Of course my first suggestion above should have said “eighth” not “eight” 🤦🏻‍♀️ was typing quickly waiting to collect DD from her sport.

It's almost inevitable that someone commenting on a thread about pedantry will cock up

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