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How is 'the soch' short for 'social (security)' spelled?

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BrickBiscuit · 31/01/2026 11:36

A current thread has confused people by referring to social security as 'soch', without further explanation. I am very familiar with hearing 'on the soshe' (as I might spell it phonetically), meaning receiving soc(ial security), but I can't remember ever seeing it written down. Also, I think the abbreviation always takes 'the' and is never just 'soshe'. How should it be spelled?

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TheAutumnCrow · 01/02/2026 14:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/02/2026 13:49

Unless they were 'Rent Direct' and claimants rent was paid directly to the landlord. Then the landlord knew they would definitely get the money and there would be no arrears.

Yes, it was a good system.

I was thinking more of ‘DHSS’ being the normal, ingrained term, not ‘sōsh’.

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/02/2026 14:11

TheAutumnCrow · 01/02/2026 14:08

Yes, it was a good system.

I was thinking more of ‘DHSS’ being the normal, ingrained term, not ‘sōsh’.

I haven't heard 'sosh' very often but people did refer to the Social Security or The social or DHSS.

upinaballoon · 01/02/2026 17:06

The (government) Department for Health and Social Security lost Health some time after 1987, and became the DSS instead of the DHSS. Then it turned into the Benefits Agency while a man called Michael Bichard popped in to make changes, so it was the BA. For all of those incarnations it was 'the social' and probably shortened to the 'soshe', not to be confused with Social Services, which are a different lot entirely.
These were all separate from the Department of Employment which ran Labour Exchanges and then the name changed to Job Centres.
At some point the two departments were joined together and became the department for Work and Pensions, the DWP.
I have a friend who used to work 'down the soshe' but when some re-arrangement was done, and some benefit-processing was taken from smaller offices to larger ones, she had to change and worked 'down the Jobbie' instead.

sidebirds · 01/02/2026 19:12

Soche [spelling?] always sounds very Scouse to me🤔 OP, are you from the Liverpool area?

CraftyGin · 01/02/2026 19:14

I knew it as The Broo

BrickBiscuit · 01/02/2026 20:56

sidebirds · 01/02/2026 19:12

Soche [spelling?] always sounds very Scouse to me🤔 OP, are you from the Liverpool area?

Not from Liverpool, but have lived there among other UK cities including London. Yes, it's definitely Scouse. 'On the soshe' receiving benefit payments, 'going down the soshe' visiting the social security office, 'loving the soshe' feeling warmly towards the welfare state.

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Emptyandsad · 07/02/2026 16:29

I've never seen it written down, although I'm familiar with its use and meaning. I think of it as a Scottish usage - as is 'the brew" (as others have mentioned). I note that others have spelt it 'broo'; another word that exists almost uniquely orally.

I love language

Choosos · 03/04/2026 21:16

Only ever hear it used by shitty parents to refer to social services

Choosos · 03/04/2026 21:17

I would spell it with an e on the end tbh.

“soche”

if it matters? I feel like soc and soch should be pronounced sock.

Choosos · 03/04/2026 21:19

BrickBiscuit · 01/02/2026 20:56

Not from Liverpool, but have lived there among other UK cities including London. Yes, it's definitely Scouse. 'On the soshe' receiving benefit payments, 'going down the soshe' visiting the social security office, 'loving the soshe' feeling warmly towards the welfare state.

“loving the soshe' feeling warmly towards the welfare state.“

🤣🤣🤣 too funny.

sorry but I have to say soche looks better than soshe, just my opinion

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