Sunthing

[TheSepticInMe]

Why do so many people have such difficulty pronouncing the letter m in a word? Inbeciles.

I grew up in Gloucestershire. A staple when travelling by train was the announcement over the tannoy in the guard's imbecilic rustic burr: "our next station stop [🤢] will be Birningham New Street".

I’m a fan of summink …

Sumfink is far worse. I get that this can be regional though.

Prefer sumfin meself

I can pronounce the letter 'm' so Chimleys to you. 🏭

It's summat where I live!

A relative says Burningham. With a rhotic R. We're not from the West Country.

I swear some people only pronounce about half the letters of any given word correctly, what with dropped 'h's, glottal stops, 'th' being pronounced as 'f', the 'ing' of a present participle dropping its 'g' to become 'in', recessive 'r', the 'l' at the end of words becoming something like 'aw' and words like 'little' becoming 'lickle' - or more likely 'lickaw'. Drives me demented.

'th' being pronounced as 'f'

It's even more annoying when the speaker is perfectly capable of saying th but says f for added enthasis. "This will cost ferty three fousand pounds" 😡

“Saaaank” in SE London

So one correct letter out of nine!

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You are insulting people for having regional dialect variations in their pronunciation, and calling them imbeciles for doing so. As a person who was born and grew up in an area with a noticeable local accent, I find your attitude highly offensive.

@helplessbanana ,this is Pedants' corner.

I love how many multi syllable words Londoners manage to turn into just long sounds 😁

I like regional variations on words most of the time but sumfink makes me want to cry

Some of these are long established and it's only chance that has made one sound the 'correct' one. For instance, there's a village in East Kent named Finglesham. Before 1066 it was recorded as Thenglesham, the home of a noble, but Norman scribes recorded what they heard the local not-nobles say. with an f.

I found when teaching that some children (8) simply could not hear 'th' at all, either voiced or unvoiced, or see the difference of where the tongue was, between teeth or lips. I think that criticising pronounciation leads somewhere I don't want to go.

I also find that, at nearly eighty, some polysyllabic words fall over themselves when I attempt to utter them, and I have to correct myself and slow down. It's a minefield when listening to others.

I have no issue with people who cannot pronounce th. I have an issue with people who can pronounce th but sometimes swap f for th, often in the more prominent words of a sentence, it comes across as an affectation.

For instance, there's a village in East Kent named Finglesham. Before 1066 it was recorded as Thenglesham, the home of a noble, but Norman scribes recorded what they heard the local not-nobles say. with an f.

At the other end of the county, a 17th century map has 'Erife'. The map maker obviously asked the locals; most of them probably pronounce it like that today.

I have no issue with people who cannot pronounce th. I have an issue with people who can pronounce th but sometimes swap f for th

I have a friend who is perfectly capable of pronouncing the letter t, but sometimes uses a glottal stop instead. Makes me want to smack her.

I have a friend who is perfectly capable of pronouncing the letter t, but sometimes uses a glottal stop instead. Makes me want to smack her.

I heard a woman on the radio say "some'imes". I can forgive the occasional glottal stop, we probably all do them in some way, but there are times when it just sounds ridiculous.

I have a friend who says 'lemf'.

Is your friend able to say other words properly @BettyTurpinPies ?

Two.

@TheSepticInMe , yes but tends to speak sloppily.

I can't remember what it was I heard the other day, it was along the 'lemf' lines, but it really sounded like it took more effort than to say it correctly, which the speaker was capable of doing.