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Please stop with the 'Xmas'

24 replies

squashyhat · 20/12/2025 08:41

I know I'm pissing in the wind - It's entrenched in the language (apparently as far back as the 11th century), it's a useful shortcut, phones probably even 'correct' to it now but I hate it. We don't try and truncate other festivals' names so why this? It's Christmas, and I hope you all have a lovely one.

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OrsolaRosso · 20/12/2025 08:43

Kylie, are you listening?

ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2025 08:53

If you’re a pedant surely you’ll have checked the origin and usage of this abbreviation? ‘We’ (the secular modern world) didn’t invent this, Christians did. I’m sure you know it’s not really an X, it’s a Greek chi, the first letter of Christos. Do you want all those ‘chi-Rho’ symbols removing?

Sorry, imo complaining about “Xmas” makes someone sound ignorant even if they’re not.

Mikart · 20/12/2025 08:59

Always Xmas here!!!

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 20/12/2025 13:04

I'm with you OP, I can't stand it either. I don't like Uni or B'day either.

ZenZazie · 20/12/2025 13:09

All I want is Xmas won’t do

catin8oot5 · 20/12/2025 14:58

I went to a convent school and our nun headteacher told us that the X was crossing out Christ 😄

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 20/12/2025 16:06

catin8oot5 · 20/12/2025 14:58

I went to a convent school and our nun headteacher told us that the X was crossing out Christ 😄

Come to think of it, late DM was brought up a Baptist and I vaguely remember her saying something like that.

soupyspoon · 20/12/2025 16:09

ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2025 08:53

If you’re a pedant surely you’ll have checked the origin and usage of this abbreviation? ‘We’ (the secular modern world) didn’t invent this, Christians did. I’m sure you know it’s not really an X, it’s a Greek chi, the first letter of Christos. Do you want all those ‘chi-Rho’ symbols removing?

Sorry, imo complaining about “Xmas” makes someone sound ignorant even if they’re not.

This

Its xmas and Christmas, both legit (now you're going to complain about legit aren't you?)

Ministerofmumbles · 20/12/2025 16:11

ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2025 08:53

If you’re a pedant surely you’ll have checked the origin and usage of this abbreviation? ‘We’ (the secular modern world) didn’t invent this, Christians did. I’m sure you know it’s not really an X, it’s a Greek chi, the first letter of Christos. Do you want all those ‘chi-Rho’ symbols removing?

Sorry, imo complaining about “Xmas” makes someone sound ignorant even if they’re not.

Perfect 😁 and also very interesting!

Have a great Xmas OP x

ImALargeAbsentMindedSpirit · 20/12/2025 16:16

I always use Christmas, I hate the X word too.

Artificialhens · 20/12/2025 16:23

C-mas.

tarheelbaby · 20/12/2025 16:29

And X, as we write it, is still in use:
In Catalan (in Barcelona), the 'ch' words start with X, e.g. xarcuterie y xocolate

and naturally, the Greeks are still using it, largely with its original, throat clearing pronunciation, sort of a 'rolled' H, which is why it's sometimes transliterated as H, e.g. Cherssonisos

Even La Aguilera has used it: Xtina.

It's not my preferred spelling of Christmas but its, origin is solid and it is a useful abbreviation.

SwedishEdith · 20/12/2025 16:35

catin8oot5 · 20/12/2025 14:58

I went to a convent school and our nun headteacher told us that the X was crossing out Christ 😄

Same. We had that "it's taking the Christ out of Christmas" nonsense as well. Makes me enjoy using Xmas even more 😄

scalt · 20/12/2025 16:41

Christmas has an H in it, Mr Baldrick. And an R, and an I, and an S. Also a T, an M, an A, and another S. Oh, and you've missed out the C at the beginning. Congratulations, something of a triumph. You must be the first person ever to spell "Christmas" without getting any of the letters right at all.

Better start calling it "winterval", to be on the safe side. Happy Holidays! 😤

Terriblytwee · 20/12/2025 18:11

Im with you OP. It’s awful.

TomatoSandwiches · 20/12/2025 18:13

No.

scalt · 21/12/2025 07:01

Xmas is a useful word for children's alphabet charts of books, for a word that does actually begin with X, and has the X sound. It's easier for children to spell as well.

Lots of charts use "xylophone", which lacks the X sound, or use a word where X is not the first letter, such as fox, or box. (That used to really annoy me as a child!)

Fernsrus · 31/12/2025 13:48

I don’t like “stop with”. Stop is fine without it. Eg Stop saying Xmas.

mazedasamarchhare · 31/12/2025 14:31

I’d rather be wished a happy Xmas than a happy Crimbo😬😂

merryhouse · 31/12/2025 15:01

scalt · 21/12/2025 07:01

Xmas is a useful word for children's alphabet charts of books, for a word that does actually begin with X, and has the X sound. It's easier for children to spell as well.

Lots of charts use "xylophone", which lacks the X sound, or use a word where X is not the first letter, such as fox, or box. (That used to really annoy me as a child!)

I make a point of saying xylophone - and xenophobia, xantham, xylem, Xander - with the extra click to make sure it's x and not s or z

which probably makes me a pretentious wanker but there you go

fatphalange · 31/12/2025 15:02

Have you ever heard it said aloud? I was wished a ‘happy EX-mas!’ 😂

HoppityBun · 31/12/2025 15:08

SwedishEdith · 20/12/2025 16:35

Same. We had that "it's taking the Christ out of Christmas" nonsense as well. Makes me enjoy using Xmas even more 😄

I thought that the X is what Christianity is all about.

Fernsrus · 31/12/2025 15:23

mazedasamarchhare · 31/12/2025 14:31

I’d rather be wished a happy Xmas than a happy Crimbo😬😂

Fair point!

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2025 15:49

Fernsrus · 31/12/2025 13:48

I don’t like “stop with”. Stop is fine without it. Eg Stop saying Xmas.

Yes - unless it’s part of your vernacular in which case surely it should be “Stop with the ‘Xmas’ already”.

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