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Twenny

54 replies

RaraRachael · 08/05/2025 11:40

Since when did the second t in twenty disappear?

Three times over the past few days, I've heard reporters and presenters saying "twenny".

It's twenTy FFS.

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Allseeingallknowing · 08/05/2025 15:24

Seckertary
Nucular

Waitingfordoggo · 08/05/2025 15:32

I say it quite like that in my accent (southern). I know how to say it ‘properly’ and sometimes do- it depends who I’m talking to. Like most people, I adjust my register to suit different contexts. I’m a bit of a pedant, but only for written language- spoken language is a different beast and I can’t bring myself to criticise people’s pronunciation because accents exist, as do speech impediments.

Horticula · 08/05/2025 15:33

thecatneuterer · 08/05/2025 13:32

Radio 4 isn't what it was! I sometimes play a game with myself (thankfully not a drinking game) where I make a mental note of how many "I was sat/stood" type constructions I hear in the course of a day on Radio 4. It's too many.

Quite.
I've recently heard on radio 4 presenters who can't pronounce 'nuclear' when talking about nuclear power stations and presenters who say ,'aks' instead of ask.
Radio 4 used to be the gold standard of British speech radio where presenters could be relied on to speak properly. That's sadly no longer the case.

Waitingfordoggo · 08/05/2025 15:37

ShrimpBoil · 08/05/2025 13:10

I heard a very annoying radio ad recently, describing how great it is to be an engineering apprentice at Ga'wick Airpor.

A fair proportion of us that live close to Gatwick pronounce it like that, especially in Crawley where most of the Gatwick workforce live!

ElleneAsanto · 10/05/2025 09:35

Febury.

If you can say “brewery”, you can say February.

ChompandaGrazia · 10/05/2025 09:41

I teach year one. They are corrected when they say twenny.

RaraRachael · 10/05/2025 10:13

ChompandaGrazia · 10/05/2025 09:41

I teach year one. They are corrected when they say twenny.

I remember when Barbara Dickson had a hit with "January, February" and there being comments about her "odd" pronunciation. Being Scottish she pronounced it as it's written Feb-roo-arry.

A lot of people thought it should have been Feb-you-arry 🙄

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Dearg · 10/05/2025 13:42

Interesting @RaraRachael.

I just repeated it to myself and confess I say Jan-u-ry & Feb-u-ry ., so a bit of lazy diction on my part.

That said, if the cadence required it for singing, I guess I would be more like Barbara Dickson ( though my singing voice is nothing like hers)

Gwenhwyfar · 10/05/2025 14:26

Funny because I had to actively learn to say twenny.

AubernFable · 10/05/2025 20:17

ElleneAsanto · 10/05/2025 09:35

Febury.

If you can say “brewery”, you can say February.

This one is hurting my brain a bit, I pronounce it ‘brew-uh-ree’ (fast) and ‘Feb-u-airy’. Are they supposed to sound more similar?

thecatneuterer · 10/05/2025 20:24

Gwenhwyfar · 10/05/2025 14:26

Funny because I had to actively learn to say twenny.

What? Why???

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 10/05/2025 20:34

JaneJeffer · 08/05/2025 15:14

Not one English person can pronounce 6th

I say it properly. And I HATE people who say SIKTH. You don't say one two three four five sik!

ARGH!

@RaraRachael YANBU. See also fiddy - instead of fifty. Though, not many people say that LOL!

I pronounce twenty with the T in the middle, and I'm not posh! Grin

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 10/05/2025 20:34

Ooooh I also hate Feb-ree and Jan-you-ree. Angry

ElleneAsanto · 10/05/2025 20:37

AubernFable · 10/05/2025 20:17

This one is hurting my brain a bit, I pronounce it ‘brew-uh-ree’ (fast) and ‘Feb-u-airy’. Are they supposed to sound more similar?

Feb-roo-airy would be acceptable. Maybe it’s one of those words that get mispronounced because it’s often spelled incorrectly.

UName38 · 10/05/2025 20:38

This is just linguistic differences in dialect. There is a standard British English written language (and American) However there have always been differences in speech.

Radio 4 being a “bastion” might just mean that groups from across a lot of the UK were excluded, just as talented but spoke differently (and didn’t attend a school that trained it out of them).

I don’t know about the examples here but a lot of the Americanisms that people complain about were the original accents or word pronunciation that people emigrated with and British English has changed when American did not.

AubernFable · 10/05/2025 20:41

ElleneAsanto · 10/05/2025 20:37

Feb-roo-airy would be acceptable. Maybe it’s one of those words that get mispronounced because it’s often spelled incorrectly.

I always assumed it was more like a silent ‘R’ situation, I don’t think anyone I know pronounces it, damn you learn something new.

thecatneuterer · 10/05/2025 20:53

UName38 · 10/05/2025 20:38

This is just linguistic differences in dialect. There is a standard British English written language (and American) However there have always been differences in speech.

Radio 4 being a “bastion” might just mean that groups from across a lot of the UK were excluded, just as talented but spoke differently (and didn’t attend a school that trained it out of them).

I don’t know about the examples here but a lot of the Americanisms that people complain about were the original accents or word pronunciation that people emigrated with and British English has changed when American did not.

It's not though. We're not talking about the glottal stop. Twenny is being said by otherwise more or less RP speakers who pronounce the t in all other words, including thirty, forty, fifty etc. It's just poor old twenty that gets this treatment.

Ifonlyiweretaller · 10/05/2025 21:35

Plice instead of police! So many broadcasters say this now and it drives me mad!

Middleagedstriker · 10/05/2025 22:40

I realise I say many of these. I can't hear the difference between some word such as maths and mass which DD tells me is different. Or free and three that I know is different. I wrongly blame my eastern European parents as some of these sounds don't exist in their language.

I do say twenty though!

BigKnickersSize18 · 10/05/2025 23:10

Worst offender for this is Stacey Dooley. Isn't that right geowls?

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 23:15

I'm a glottal stopper on certain words, twen'y, sa'urday (and I pronounce the day as di) but I might also say twenny at times

Profhilodisaster · 10/05/2025 23:21

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 23:15

I'm a glottal stopper on certain words, twen'y, sa'urday (and I pronounce the day as di) but I might also say twenny at times

Me too , I'm originally from SE London , if I'm talking to friends or family it's twen'y, I'm posher at work!

Recently , I've started to hear ekspecially, which I hate .

Gwenhwyfar · 11/05/2025 21:26

thecatneuterer · 10/05/2025 20:24

What? Why???

To sound like everyone else so as not get teased for my Welsh speaking accent. I don't drop t's everywhere, but this one is almost always dropped where I come from.

CakeBlanchett · 14/05/2025 00:28

AubernFable · 10/05/2025 20:17

This one is hurting my brain a bit, I pronounce it ‘brew-uh-ree’ (fast) and ‘Feb-u-airy’. Are they supposed to sound more similar?

Yes. Fè-brewery.

MakingItRight · 14/05/2025 06:57

I tend to freestyle February in two different ways, neither of them correct 😆

Either
Feb-you-erry
Or
Feb-ruh-ry

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