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Twenny

54 replies

RaraRachael · 08/05/2025 11:40

Since when did the second t in twenty disappear?

Three times over the past few days, I've heard reporters and presenters saying "twenny".

It's twenTy FFS.

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Bluevelvetsofa · 08/05/2025 11:43

‘T’ s often go missing though, as do ‘g’s.

Furball · 08/05/2025 11:43

and Firty

RaraRachael · 08/05/2025 12:42

Bluevelvetsofa · 08/05/2025 11:43

‘T’ s often go missing though, as do ‘g’s.

I know and expect it in words like "butter" etc but I've never heard twenny before.

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MakingItRight · 08/05/2025 12:43

That's weird because I can't imagine not saying the T in butter, but would always say twenny

Scousemousey · 08/05/2025 12:45

Depends where you're from, dunnit.🤷

Theoscargoesto · 08/05/2025 12:46

On the subject of numbers, free. Free legs on a tripod, innit.

WednesdaysChild25 · 08/05/2025 12:47

Prolly instead of probably wtf is that all about

ErrolTheDragon · 08/05/2025 12:55

It’s not when so much as where. Absent tees and glottal stops have been common in many U.K. accents for ages.

FlatErica · 08/05/2025 13:00

Middle class people trying to sound “street” often do this.

BitOutOfPractice · 08/05/2025 13:04

It’s a regional / dialect thing. As someone from an area where every g is sounded strongly, I find the dropped g annoying. It’s SinGinG. Not sin(g)in’.

Where I live in Essex the letter T rarely makes an appearance. I once got charged “Fir’enn fir-y free” in Sainsbury’s.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 08/05/2025 13:06

It's immensely annoying and very American. I hear even so-called when spoken people using it and it sounds awful and lazy. It's different from the Cockney missing T.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 08/05/2025 13:07

RaraRachael · 08/05/2025 12:42

I know and expect it in words like "butter" etc but I've never heard twenny before.

I also hear "budder" which is even more annoying 😂

ShrimpBoil · 08/05/2025 13:10

I heard a very annoying radio ad recently, describing how great it is to be an engineering apprentice at Ga'wick Airpor.

Neededsomethingnew · 08/05/2025 13:16

I’ve never really thought about it, but where I’m from you are more likely to hear twenny than twenty, I’m 50yo and it’s always been a thing.

My pet hate is Keckle rather than kettle, even has a child it rubbed the wrong way for me.

Exceptionally broad accents in my area would also say WAT-er rather than war-ter

thecatneuterer · 08/05/2025 13:17

It's been driving me bonkers. I listen to a lot of audio books. And as I mostly listen to memoirs (politicians, doctors, judges etc, all British, not American) it's a word that comes up a lot. "In October 2021 blah, blah". It's actually ruined the listening experience as I'm just waiting for the next one (I think Rory Stewart was particularly guilty of this). Yet the t is alive and well in all the other words and numbers they say. It's just poor old twenny that seems to have lost its way.

CeliaCanth · 08/05/2025 13:23

It’s all over the place and drives me mad. Several podcasts have been too annoying to listen to because of “twenny twenny five” and so on. Radio Four’s guilty of it too. Please make it stop!

thecatneuterer · 08/05/2025 13:32

CeliaCanth · 08/05/2025 13:23

It’s all over the place and drives me mad. Several podcasts have been too annoying to listen to because of “twenny twenny five” and so on. Radio Four’s guilty of it too. Please make it stop!

Radio 4 isn't what it was! I sometimes play a game with myself (thankfully not a drinking game) where I make a mental note of how many "I was sat/stood" type constructions I hear in the course of a day on Radio 4. It's too many.

wehavea2319 · 08/05/2025 13:36

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 08/05/2025 13:07

I also hear "budder" which is even more annoying 😂

I’ve noticed this a lot on social media videos, usually youngish people with very posh accents/sound like they’re probably privately educated. Seem to substitute ‘t’ with a ‘d’ for a lot of words and almost sound Australian at times.

Dearg · 08/05/2025 13:40

@Neededsomethingnew re Wat-er vs War-Ter- is that regional?

It’s always wat-er where I am from ( NE Scotland).

Edited to add: I would not be considered ‘broad’ accent-wise

RaraRachael · 08/05/2025 14:35

Definitely wa-ter for me. It's the age old conundrum of some accents inserting an r such as warter in the barth and omitting it eg the fahmer has a caht 🤣

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petermaddog · 08/05/2025 14:44

een and not in many words ,wa'er its water

tyreright · 08/05/2025 14:48

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 08/05/2025 13:06

It's immensely annoying and very American. I hear even so-called when spoken people using it and it sounds awful and lazy. It's different from the Cockney missing T.

Yep, it's an American tongue flap rather than the standard UK glottal stop.

We used to say 'twen'y' now it's an Americanised 'twenny'

AubernFable · 08/05/2025 15:11

Neededsomethingnew · 08/05/2025 13:16

I’ve never really thought about it, but where I’m from you are more likely to hear twenny than twenty, I’m 50yo and it’s always been a thing.

My pet hate is Keckle rather than kettle, even has a child it rubbed the wrong way for me.

Exceptionally broad accents in my area would also say WAT-er rather than war-ter

Keckle and liccle instead of little drive me up the wall (silently in my own head of course) I also can’t stand ‘fink’ and ‘free’ instead of think and three.

JaneJeffer · 08/05/2025 15:14

Not one English person can pronounce 6th

MakingItRight · 08/05/2025 15:23

JaneJeffer · 08/05/2025 15:14

Not one English person can pronounce 6th

So true!

I pronounce it sixt-th!

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