Keeping socks in a draw

[CatCaretaker]

Where did draw as a misnomer for drawer come from? I never heard it until I joined Mumsnet (though I'm Irish so maybe it's not a thing here). Is it that a certain accent masks the 'er' in drawer? It drives me bonkers.

There's a trending thread right now, but the OP said draw instead of drawer, and all I want to do is reply correcting her (I won't obviously)! How has she reached this age (middle aged from context in the thread) with nobody having asked her why she is saying draw instead of drawer?

I’m in the SE and yes, that pronunciation would be how it’s taught if the teacher had that accent. Although a different pronounciation wouldn’t be classed as wrong. Like “path” would be pronounced however the teacher pronounced it, but a child saying “par-th” or a child saying “pah-th” would both be fine. Neither would be corrected to the other.

Agreed

Aw…is more of a long continuous open vowel sound…

or (ore)…almost start like aw but it softens and finishes with an “r”

it’s like “aw…that’s a cute baby” “this OR that”

🤣🤣 best I could do

So if a teacher says can anyone tell me a word that rhymes with saw they would say “pore” and they’re not corrected?

In mine too. Can't people see the two extra letters after "draw" in the word "drawer"? Or maybe, as a pp said, people don't read books (as opposed to social media ads) where it is likely to be properly spelled, any more.

trying to think of other words with the aw sound but not at the ending so words like shawl, brawl, crawl…

Because people are dumb basically, I don’t even bother reading posts if title has spelling mistake.

Draw er
Stow er
Floe er

In my accent

This argument only works if you think there are no inconsistencies in pronounciation in your accent.

I sound like an actual maniac repeating draw, drawer, pour, poor over and over again this morning 😂 The way you’ve explained it as ‘Drawr’ makes sense though, but when I say it like that it comes out in a fake American accent because they pronounce their R’s much harder than we do here.

I saw a 'Chest of Doors' for sale recently...

What fascinates me is that in south east England it seems drawer is pronounced draw, and yet when you hear people speak they are forever adding er to words that don't have them.

So drawer is draw, but ask them to say drawing and it's drawering!

I think that if the teacher and child both pronounced it with the same sound, it wouldn’t be corrected. If the teacher pronounced saw how you pronounce it, then it probably wouldn’t be seen as correct.

If the teacher said “what’s rhymes with maths” and the child said “paths” but with the pronounciation “par-ths” that wouldn’t be seen as correct. But if another child said “pah-ths” then it would be.

In my accent, the sound in the middle of brawl is the same as at the end of pore.
But I can understand more what you mean now.

@CatCaretaker how do you pronounce book?

this has me 🤯

I actually do keep my socks in a draw. I use a lucky dip approach in my sock drawer whereby I don’t bother pairing them and take out 2 without looking, so a genuine sock tombola.

This is the first time I have ever really wanted a voice note function on mumsnet 🤣🤣🤣 it would make these threads so much fun

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I think there are some really horrible comments on this thread - it’s easy, especially with a menopausal brain and on typing on your phone to make this kind of spelling mistake, even though you know how to spell it, but then I guess it is pedants’ corner.

Drawering, is that from the same place as Laura Norder? Those of us with Rhotic accents don’t add a middle R where there is none. So with my mild Scottish, now tinged with Yorkshire, accent, I say drawing and law and order, just as they're spelt.

In my accent they are pronounced the same - but I certainly how to spell each one when writing!

@Zimunya , do you say player and layer as one syllable each? For some reason, some say player as plare.
@Seymour5 , Drawring, Laura Norder, and names like Laura Anne, Lawruhran. (I'm from somewhere where some have a rhotic accent and some don't).

I think it's 'compulsory' on SM to use bare for bear and there for their/they're, and one adult female human is a women.

@Pedant1Scorner - no, I say lay-er and play-er. But "draw" and "drawer" have no discernible difference when I'm speaking. Also "flour" and "flower" sound the same in my accent. But obviously I know how each one is spelt, and when speaking the meaning is clear (if not the accent!) by the context of the conversation. Conversely, I am puzzled by some English accents when saying "oral" - to me it sounds like "aural" and I genuinely thinking they are mixing up ears / hearing and mouths / voices when it is just an accent. But everything becomes clear when it is in writing, thankfully!

I think I have one of those accents! Oral and aural are also pronounced the same (ore-ul), same as flower and flour. Not sure how you’d pronounce it differently, surely not with a hard ‘a’? I find this so interesting.

I pronounce layer and player lay-uh and play-uh, any other way I pronounce it, it comes out American 😂

A drawer is where you store something, draw is something you do with a pen or pencil.
Where I am they are both pronounced the same