"I have went"

[DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy]

What fresh hell is this? A woman on Richard Osman's House of Games. RO asks them to write a number/answer. Then says: "What did you put?" She replies: "I have went for...."
Aargh! Really put my blood pressure up!
I think she's Scottish - not sure as I'm hopeless with accents. She hadn't heard of the Isle of Muck so maybe not. But in what world can this be correct? I can't think of any other grammar thing that has wound me up this much!

I suppose if anyone needed to draw out any lurking incognito pedants they would just have to put up a sign referring to the velvet sofa's, palm's, lamp's in the shape of flamingo's, etc.

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Brilliant response! 👏

I was watching an old Coronation St. and Ken Barlow, of all people, said "you are sat.....".
The funny thing is I remember it the first time and I was still as horrified, twenty years later!

A friend of mine is a journalist for the FT and he says it. I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately.

Probably the related phrase I hate most is "I was led". It's gone from "I was lying" (from the verb "to lie") via "I was laid" (from the verb "to lay") to arrive at "I was led" (from the verb "to lead" which has nothing to do with lying at all).

To me, led means being led somewhere and nothing to do with lying down!

I think that's exactly what I just said, isn't it?!

I am currently surrounded by people who have a different but equally robust regional accent to mine. They would largely say ‘I’ve gone for the starter.’ What I really like is when they say ‘that (plural noun)’ instead of ‘those.’ Sometimes they also add ‘is it?’ to questions containing plurals (‘that pups are bonny, is it?’) Personally, I think it has charm, as it’s their own distinctive dialect. More currently, I’ve noticed in certain parts of Scotland and Northern Ireland, ‘wee’ no longer necessarily connotes size or significance. Hopefully there’s a surgeon in Lanarkshire successfully closing up a wee heart transplant right now. There’s something endearing about it (to me).

So, anyway, the point - how does a pattern of speech acquire the legitimacy of dialect? What’s the tipping point? When someone has ‘went away and wrote’ a bothy ballad in it? I had excellent teachers (who’d have been born in the 1930s) who’d want to know why you’d went for answer three. I’ve got GP pals who’d undoubtedly say they’d went back to the consultant. I am not sure that they’d write it in a formal setting. I don’t know if they’d say it on TV. That’s code-switching, isn’t it? So doesn’t that indicate it’s dialect? Or …a shibboleth? Or just pure past-participle pugnacity? I’d really be fascinated to know how we differentiate and I’m guessing someone here will.

No, the 'a' goes with the singular 'corner'.

In the south of Scotland ' wee' seems to be used for everything.
'Can I just get a wee signature ' when checking in to a hotel etc

It doesn't happen in the north.

I'm not sure I understand that one, who says I was led meaning anything to do with lying?

YUP. Along with the likes of “I seen…”

Have you never heard (or read) anyone say (or write), "I was led in bed" or "I was led there" (when the context makes it clear they mean they were lying there)? I'm sure I have, many times.

Obviously I agree the verb "to lead" has nothing to do with lying, when both are used correctly.

Oh, I see what you mean. Well yes, exactly, so it's bonkers that they would get confused. But they do.

Phew. You have made my day. My DD is in her final year of studying French and linguistics. She and I have had many conversations about grammar and we both delight in loving it. We disagree on the Oxford comma and love that too. Despite all this, she shrugs her shoulders when I fulminate over 'she was sat' and is dismissive when I start talking about the simple past and the gerund in the present continuous.

I've never heard anyone say "I was led in bed".
I can only think they might be saying laid but it sounds like led because of their accent.

No, never heard I was led in bed. If Someone said I was led there I'd assume it was the past tense of lead.

Is it something you regularly hear or is it one person who pronounces it wrongly

I'm pretty sure I've seen it on here (MN, not Pedants' Corner, obvs!), but I can't remember where.

Northern Ireland...put your wee card in the wee machine and put in your wee pin number please. Would you like a wee receipt? Do you want a wee bag?
I'm sure it has increased massively over the years!

Same in Glasgow!

The lounge would also have a uniformed (lady) bouncer on the door who would ask people to pronounce "drawing" as they came in. Anyone who said "draw-ring" would be told to sling their hook. [I'm common as muck but do make myself say that properly.]

Just a PIN, not a PIN number. The N stands for number.

Sorry...

Yes, I was agreeing with you.

From a thread this morning: "When I walked in [to the bedroom] he was led naked..."

A wee pin number is part of the spiel. I would never dream of saying it!