Changing tense and structure

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Have you recently gotten engaged or know someone who has?

This statement is on an advert for a local five star hotel.

Putting aside, 'gotten', for a second, I just don't know how it wouldn't sound clumsy to anyone when read, or spoken aloud.

Correct or not, their ad is easier to understand than your reply. Why have you even written a thread about this?

Why have you even written a thread about this?

Maybe because this is ‘Pedants’ corner’, which exists purely to host discussions about language and grammar usage?

Maybe you prove why. Perhaps the average person can no longer understand a sentence with more than one clause.

Sounds fine to me

Have you (recently gotten engaged or) know someone who has? Doesn't this need, "Do you know...'?

No I don’t think it does. I think it’s perfectly fine

It makes perfect sense grammatically. Sometimes less is more x

It's totally understandable which makes it fine.

I think using "you" to double up in two different clauses this way counts as using the "apo koinu construction". I might have first read about it on here.

Like in "there was a farmer had a dog"

Yes, it absolutely does, and your OP is perfectly clear (to me, at least). The ad is grammatically mangled at best, if not downright nonsensical.

I hate when the verb is missed out of the second clause.

I think the ad is fine, I don't see a problem.

I agree I don't like the use of "gotten", but other than that, it's totally fine.

"Have you recently got engaged or know someone who has?"

Totally fine.

I find it jarring, initially because "gotten" needs "have" and "know" needs "do".

Contrast "Have you recently gotten engaged or been to Paris?" which sounds fine.

I am struggling to come up with something that mixes tenses and still sounds OK. Matching the verbs makes mixing the tenses more obvious and the whole thing more jarring.

I'm not familiar with apo koinu but all the examples I can find seem to have a single word or phrase which sits comfortably with what's before or after it without changing anything else, which isn't the case here. Maybe someone can explain this further?

I strongly contest the view that being understandable makes it fine. It needs to be understandable without detracting attention from the meaning by making anyone think 'what was that again' or 'ouch that's ugly '. Otherwise you could argue that ' You. Me. Bed. Now.' is equally fine.

I absolutely hate ‘gotten’ it’s awful, yanbu OP, I’d seriously judge a business thinking think is a good use of English on their marketing materials.