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please be kind to me! help with the two little dots above a letter!!

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mellyonion · 29/04/2008 10:28

my dd is Zoe...she has the two dots above her e...i thought this was called an "uumlat" (or similar!) and was to make the E sound like an eeeeeee, ie. "ZowiEEEEE"
rather than no sound as in joe...(sounding like row)

so, have i got it right, and why doe some zoes have the dots above the o, and lastly, how do i type them on my keyboard????

many thanks, oh wise and clever ones!

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mellyonion · 29/04/2008 10:56

thanks so much everyone! cheers cod...

still can't get the damn thing to type though.........

silly onion silly keyboard!

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mellyonion · 29/04/2008 10:57

CAN'T EVEN CROSS OUT A BLOODY WORD NOW!!!
is it bed time yet????

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titchy · 29/04/2008 11:22

Thanks - have just emailed dh to let him know that dd's umlaut is in fact a diaeresis.
Thanks!

branflake81 · 29/04/2008 15:42

go to insert symbol in word and it will be there.

freakypenguin · 29/04/2008 15:46

some style woman is Rachel Zoe pronounced Zow.

But it's her surname.

Hmmm

ChipButty · 29/04/2008 21:13

Diaeresis means that you pronounce the two vowels separately. Umlaut changes the pronunciation of the vowel above which it is placed.

omy · 29/04/2008 21:45

I just named my LO Leila - French spelling - and I just found out (from a French person!) that there should be 2 dots above the i!! - i suppose that would be a diaeresis too! I have no idea how to type the i with 2 dots above it though! Any ideas?

omy · 29/04/2008 21:46

By the way I have a mac...

omy · 29/04/2008 21:47

Hey! I just found the special ï in 'symbols' in word and pasted here. I wonder if there is a short cut so that I wouldn't have to paste from word though....
Leïla!! very french!

Botbot · 30/04/2008 08:42

Mac = alt + u then type the i. Lovely name!

CatWithKittens · 30/04/2008 09:49

Did anyone else wince at the use of ?repurpose? in the Wikipeida article to which Cod referred us?

varicoseveined · 30/04/2008 10:25

I simply type the name Zoe into Word, it corrects it with the diaeresis et voila!

omy · 30/04/2008 10:58

ï thanks botbot you are a genius!!!

MehgaLegs · 30/04/2008 11:06

ǽ

MehgaLegs · 30/04/2008 11:06

Just testing. Why does it only show the code?

MehgaLegs · 30/04/2008 11:07

♫

MehgaLegs · 30/04/2008 11:07

Oh and again. Sorry, will piss off now

mellyonion · 30/04/2008 12:39

bollocks!

i did it on word...set my shortcut keys up, did it on a word document...all fine, feeling very clever about it all, then came to practice on here, and my chosen shortcut gives me an e with an accent.....é......
what's that all about then??????

pants pants pants......

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Weegiemum · 06/05/2008 11:28

how do you put in on a u in Mac if you are using u to create the umlaut? DH is Jurgen (with umlaut on the u) - not sure how to do it!

If I am writing a letter with his name in (him too) we print it out and add the umlaut by hand. He likes to have it!

MrsBadger · 06/05/2008 12:10

on a Mac it is alt + u to get the dots, then u for the letter

Jürgen

Anna8888 · 06/05/2008 12:15

Buy a French keyboard - Zoë.

My daughter has Zoë as her third name. Zoë is my mother's first name. My mother has always hated it.

ZoeC · 06/05/2008 12:15

I have always used the two dots over my 'e', but only now have I the correct name for it so thank you

I didn't use them when I was younger, then I had a teacher who got quite cross about me NOT using them as it wasn't correct and I got in the habit after that!

Have to say, I don't always bother when typing, but always use them when writing.

TwinMumInCologne · 21/04/2010 12:42

Those dots not called 'Umlaut' but "trema". They are meant to separate the e from the o, that's why it is correct to say ZO-Eeee and not something like Joe. You can point out to people who do that they - probably - don't say CitROWn but Citro-en!

The code for ë on my PC is Alt and 137 on the number pad, but I usually just copy the ë out of the internet as I cannot be bothered with the code.

Mhm, and I guess all the parents of "Zöe"s got it wrong somehow...

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