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The proof of the pudding…

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FadedRed · 22/09/2024 13:12

Is in the eating. Which make sense.
It is NOT “The proof is in the pudding” which is clearly nonsense, but I am hearing repeated on the television.

*pudding, ggggg,
Why can’t we edit the title? Off to start another thread on Site Stuff…

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upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 17:08

I've been hearing that the proof is in the pudding for some time, not necessarily just on TV. I agree with you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In Priti Patel's case the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'. No, I'm not making a political side-swipe there but she is the only person I can think of at present who leaves off the 'g'.

If the proof is in the pudding does that mean that a carefully written out maths explanation has been dropped into a raw sponge mix and duly steamed in a basin with golden syrup at the bottom? In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

FadedRed · 22/09/2024 19:10

Thank you @JoMumsnet for correcting my spelling error 😀

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JoMumsnet · 22/09/2024 19:17

FadedRed · 22/09/2024 19:10

Thank you @JoMumsnet for correcting my spelling error 😀

Happy to help.

Of all the places to slip up, it HAD to be here!

LettyToretto · 22/09/2024 19:30

Brace yourself. Please sit.

I once saw an educational video in Physics about 25 years ago that explained the saying "the proof is in the pudding" due to a plum pudding being used by Rutherford establishing the structure of an atom... ie the plums were electrons or some such

upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 21:40

LettyToretto · 22/09/2024 19:30

Brace yourself. Please sit.

I once saw an educational video in Physics about 25 years ago that explained the saying "the proof is in the pudding" due to a plum pudding being used by Rutherford establishing the structure of an atom... ie the plums were electrons or some such

I'm sitting. I braced myself.
Righto.

SiobhanSharpe · 22/09/2024 21:49

LettyToretto · 22/09/2024 19:30

Brace yourself. Please sit.

I once saw an educational video in Physics about 25 years ago that explained the saying "the proof is in the pudding" due to a plum pudding being used by Rutherford establishing the structure of an atom... ie the plums were electrons or some such

That's taking retro fitting too far.
(And ignores the fact that the correct saying, 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating..." is much more than 25 years old. 17th century or thereabouts.)

TheAverageJoanne · 27/09/2024 08:23

upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 17:08

I've been hearing that the proof is in the pudding for some time, not necessarily just on TV. I agree with you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In Priti Patel's case the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'. No, I'm not making a political side-swipe there but she is the only person I can think of at present who leaves off the 'g'.

If the proof is in the pudding does that mean that a carefully written out maths explanation has been dropped into a raw sponge mix and duly steamed in a basin with golden syrup at the bottom? In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

You forgot Alix Scott.

Lengokengo · 27/09/2024 08:29

The Dutch word proef ( pronounced proof) translates as both taste and test/ sample.

i always thought the pudding phrase was more the taste/ trial of the pudding is when you eat it. Lots of dutch words come through in English and vice versa ( strong sailing links with the two countries)

Seeline · 27/09/2024 08:56

upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 17:08

I've been hearing that the proof is in the pudding for some time, not necessarily just on TV. I agree with you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In Priti Patel's case the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'. No, I'm not making a political side-swipe there but she is the only person I can think of at present who leaves off the 'g'.

If the proof is in the pudding does that mean that a carefully written out maths explanation has been dropped into a raw sponge mix and duly steamed in a basin with golden syrup at the bottom? In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

Sadiq Khan also lacks g's. Very annoying.

upinaballoon · 27/09/2024 10:12

Seeline · 27/09/2024 08:56

Sadiq Khan also lacks g's. Very annoying.

arf on em carnt speak proper

I didn't really mean to sidetrack from puddings to anyone but I suppose it was the 'ing' ending which led me on.

000EverybodyLovesTheSunshine000 · 19/10/2024 11:43

upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 17:08

I've been hearing that the proof is in the pudding for some time, not necessarily just on TV. I agree with you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In Priti Patel's case the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'. No, I'm not making a political side-swipe there but she is the only person I can think of at present who leaves off the 'g'.

If the proof is in the pudding does that mean that a carefully written out maths explanation has been dropped into a raw sponge mix and duly steamed in a basin with golden syrup at the bottom? In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

My child's Y2 teacher never said "ing" properly. Drove me up the bloody wall!

The rest of her speech was ok bizarrely

liveyoungstayactive · 19/10/2024 11:47

upinaballoon · 22/09/2024 17:08

I've been hearing that the proof is in the pudding for some time, not necessarily just on TV. I agree with you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In Priti Patel's case the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'. No, I'm not making a political side-swipe there but she is the only person I can think of at present who leaves off the 'g'.

If the proof is in the pudding does that mean that a carefully written out maths explanation has been dropped into a raw sponge mix and duly steamed in a basin with golden syrup at the bottom? In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

Beth Rigsby does that too. Drives me mad. Sounds so ignorant.

heldinadream · 19/10/2024 11:48

Beth Rigby. Puddin', eatin', wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin', plannin' and dreamin', each night of his chaaaaarms, that won't get you into his aaaarms!
It's a song. As you were. 😂

liveyoungstayactive · 19/10/2024 11:50

Seeline · 27/09/2024 08:56

Sadiq Khan also lacks g's. Very annoying.

Khan's elocution is dreadful

upinaballoon · 19/10/2024 13:27

liveyoungstayactive · 19/10/2024 11:47

Beth Rigsby does that too. Drives me mad. Sounds so ignorant.

Yes. I'd forgotten her when I was remembering Priti Patel.

There's one person I do forgive for leaving off the 'g', which is so inconsistent of me. It's the man who does the repairs to old documents on The Repair Shop.

BarbaraHoward · 19/10/2024 13:29

liveyoungstayactive · 19/10/2024 11:47

Beth Rigsby does that too. Drives me mad. Sounds so ignorant.

I don't think it's Rigsby who sounds ignorant.

TheAverageJoanne · 19/10/2024 17:41

upinaballoon · 19/10/2024 13:27

Yes. I'd forgotten her when I was remembering Priti Patel.

There's one person I do forgive for leaving off the 'g', which is so inconsistent of me. It's the man who does the repairs to old documents on The Repair Shop.

Chris? I'm asking him to restore an old journal for me.

upinaballoon · 19/10/2024 21:55

TheAverageJoanne · 19/10/2024 17:41

Chris? I'm asking him to restore an old journal for me.

Side-track - Can you ask them to do things without having to be on TV? I guess you can.

TheAverageJoanne · 20/10/2024 20:36

upinaballoon · 19/10/2024 21:55

Side-track - Can you ask them to do things without having to be on TV? I guess you can.

Yes I wouldn't want to be on the show. I contacted him privately through his website.

JudgeJ · 28/11/2024 11:42

In maths I used to have to use side-headings 'given', 'to prove' and 'proof', so that is why I used it as my 'proof' example.

Oh God, Euclidean proofs! We used to have to learn two by heart as homework, the next lesson was everyone coming to the blackboard and reciting a proof. The teacher called us in alphabetical order and as I was an M in those days, even if he craftily started from the end of the alphabet I never needed to learn them as listening to 12 or more people recite them I would know them! Never let a Geography teacher teach Maths!

hallouminatus · 02/12/2024 16:11

Lengokengo · 27/09/2024 08:29

The Dutch word proef ( pronounced proof) translates as both taste and test/ sample.

i always thought the pudding phrase was more the taste/ trial of the pudding is when you eat it. Lots of dutch words come through in English and vice versa ( strong sailing links with the two countries)

Proof/prove with the meaning "test/trial" also makes sense of the otherwise nonsensical expression: "the exception that proves the rule".

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 02/12/2024 17:25

He would not 'except'.

Drives me nuts.

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