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BBC i-play-yah

7 replies

Summertimer · 09/08/2024 23:26

Can no one say player properly at the BBC anymore?

Also it’s ‘’the USA” the UK” “the EU”

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hallouminatus · 11/08/2024 19:17

Presumably, the title is intended to show the incorrect pronunciation, but it's not really clear what pronunciation is being shown or which bit is considered incorrect. I guess it's the last syllable. The suffix '-er' is normally and 'correctly' pronounced in British English as an unstressed, mid central vowel /ə/, (called 'schwa'), and with a silent 'r', except in some (so-called rhotic) regional accents. Does the final 'ah' in the title represent a different phoneme or phonemes? Which one(s)? The 'y' in 'yah' suggest a palatial approximant /j/ (called 'yod'), which shouldn't be part of the suffix, but the 'y' at the end of 'play' is part of the diphthong /ei/, and the 'yod' may be heard as a liaison between the /ei/ and the /ə/.

WeegieWan · 11/08/2024 19:23

Viewers in Scotland don't have this problem - but then as The Proclaimers correctly alluded, we 'don't throw the R away' up here...

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/08/2024 19:27

l say ‘iplayuh’

Msybe k need to work at the Beeb?

Anewuser · 11/08/2024 19:29

hallouminatus · 11/08/2024 19:17

Presumably, the title is intended to show the incorrect pronunciation, but it's not really clear what pronunciation is being shown or which bit is considered incorrect. I guess it's the last syllable. The suffix '-er' is normally and 'correctly' pronounced in British English as an unstressed, mid central vowel /ə/, (called 'schwa'), and with a silent 'r', except in some (so-called rhotic) regional accents. Does the final 'ah' in the title represent a different phoneme or phonemes? Which one(s)? The 'y' in 'yah' suggest a palatial approximant /j/ (called 'yod'), which shouldn't be part of the suffix, but the 'y' at the end of 'play' is part of the diphthong /ei/, and the 'yod' may be heard as a liaison between the /ei/ and the /ə/.

I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about but it sounds bloody impressive.

GoadyMcBigot · 11/08/2024 19:32

Surely a bit wanky even for pedants’ cornah??

Fink · 11/08/2024 19:37

I agree with @hallouminatus, it's not clear how you think it's being pronounced wrongly; can you post the IPA pronunciation? Are you complaining that people with a non-RP accent are working at the BBC?

And what's the problem with the UK etc? The article is often omitted in speech if the word is functioning as an adjective as part of a title, e.g. 'U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken' rather than 'The ...'. Is that what bothers you?

DwightDFlysenhower · 13/08/2024 10:23

I assumed it was a stress/rhythm thing? Three stressed syllables for BBC, three for iPlayer.

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