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Pedants' corner

Oscar Wilde? Surely not

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LadyAddle · 20/07/2024 19:37

A poster on another thread has used a quotation "Don't love anyone who treats you like you're ordinary" and ascribed it to Oscar Wilde. I simply can't believe he wrote this, if only because of the use of like instead of as if.
It doesn't appear in any reliable source, but I'm open to correction if anyone can tell me otherwise. (I haven't had a go at the original poster, btw!)

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Mumoftwo1316 · 20/07/2024 19:45

It seems unlikely doesn't it. I've googled it and it's widely attributed to him but no one can say when/where.

One way to do it would be to buy his complete works on kindle (cheap for deceased authors) then do a search for it

LadyAddle · 20/07/2024 19:54

@Mumoftwo1316 I did consider the kindle idea, and then felt I was being a bit obsessive. A Google Books search did come up blank. I just can't bear it when great clunking modernisms appear in allegedly period writing.

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Mumoftwo1316 · 20/07/2024 19:56

LadyAddle · 20/07/2024 19:54

@Mumoftwo1316 I did consider the kindle idea, and then felt I was being a bit obsessive. A Google Books search did come up blank. I just can't bear it when great clunking modernisms appear in allegedly period writing.

I agree, it's why I never read historical novels, only books written in the time. It's so jarring when a phrase pops out that wouldn't have been used

EveryKneeShallBow · 20/07/2024 19:59

Nothing to add, but just wanted to bring up the ridiculous number of quotes attributed to Einstein. It’s a wonder he got anything done with the amount of aphorisms and witty one-liners he was apparently spouting.

soupfiend · 20/07/2024 19:59

I dont know the answer to the question but really hate it when people bandy something around that they dont have the evidence for and when historical dramas on TV/film have scripts full of modern day speech, I just cant watch it

Historical figures have tons of things ascribed to them that they never said, Einstein, Churchill, Pepys to name a few

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 20/07/2024 20:07

Is it not,

Don't love anyone what treats you worser than what ordinary folk does.

I think I'm right here.

soupfiend · 20/07/2024 20:10

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 20/07/2024 20:07

Is it not,

Don't love anyone what treats you worser than what ordinary folk does.

I think I'm right here.

You are.

Its from the play what Oskar rote.

Mumoftwo1316 · 20/07/2024 20:19

The type of modernism I particularly hate in poor historical writing is psychobabble. Like if a 19th century character talks about their inner child or being a victim or having "issues" or even just (I see this often) the modern use of the word "support". Yuck! People did not "support" each other more than 150 years ago, except maybe literally with an arm. I mean, they did. But they called it something else

soupfiend · 20/07/2024 20:38

Thats brilliant. I particularly like the quote from Jesus

muddyford · 20/07/2024 21:17

soupfiend · 20/07/2024 19:59

I dont know the answer to the question but really hate it when people bandy something around that they dont have the evidence for and when historical dramas on TV/film have scripts full of modern day speech, I just cant watch it

Historical figures have tons of things ascribed to them that they never said, Einstein, Churchill, Pepys to name a few

Read a book set pre-WW2 and one of the characters used the word 'teenager'. Gave me same frisson as collared doves calling on the sound tracks of films set before the 1950s, but filmed more recently (they didn't reach here until then).

LadyAddle · 20/07/2024 23:03

I think the trouble is younger editors who lack experience and don’t have an ear for the false notes - they need old warhorses like me who have been reading for seventy years.

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