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Ok pedants..is there a difference between..

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TsarChasm · 03/04/2008 17:28

Suffers from epilepsy
and
Suffers with epilepsy

Or maybe they're the same?

The 'epilepsy' bit is just an example. I was reading something that said 'he suffers from..' and was wondering, as you do.

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IorekByrnison · 03/04/2008 17:43

I would say that "suffers from" is the more usual/correct form and simply means that the person has the condition. "Suffers with" doesn't sound quite right to me, but if I heard it I would take it to mean that the person is suffering on account of the epilepsy: in other words it is the suffering that is being emphasised rather than the condition.

MsHighwater · 03/04/2008 22:41

Disability awareness campaigners have, for a long time, strongly discouraged the use of the word "suffers" in this context. Also "victim" for similar reasons.

littlelapin · 03/04/2008 22:43

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barnstaple · 03/04/2008 22:47

Anyone got a handy copy of Fowler's? If I were being really ridiculously rigorous I would that with is incorrect as it actually means that epilepsy is suffering too

On a very personal level I think with in that context is rather drippy.

IorekByrnison · 03/04/2008 23:04

Yes, that's much better, littlelapin. I suffer from pedantry, but I don't suffer with pedantry - far from it. I love it.

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