Consult v Consultation.

[Grumpyoldpersonwithcats]

Inspired by an existing thread so this might get removed, however I've also noticed this in conversation recently (with DW).
I think 'consult' is a verb and 'consultation' is a noun. Why do people now talk about 'a consult', and is it only me who thinks this just sounds wrong?

[olympicsrock]

Yes it’s the same as an ‘invite’ vs an invitation.

[Hobbi]

Not just you, it's wrong.

[Dilbertian]

It's an evolution of language. English shows for nouns to be used as verbs and vice-versa. They are no longer quite the same word.

Consult, invite have the stress on the second syllable when they are verbs, but on the first syllable when they are nouns.

[Dilbertian]

English allows for...

[Grumpyoldpersonwithcats]

I'm largely inured to 'invite' being used as a noun because it's in such common use now, but to me 'a consult' is both unfamiliar and a very ugly usage.

[Grumpyoldpersonwithcats]

A gentle reminder that you are posting in Pedants' corner 😁.

[Grumpyoldpersonwithcats]

Thank you for the gentle reminder (although I hadn't actually forgotten that 🤣).

[Dilbertian]

@Grumpyoldpersonwithcats

I'm largely inured to 'invite' being used as a noun because it's in such common use now, but to me 'a consult' is both unfamiliar and a very ugly usage.

I agree with you. There are plenty of usages about which people say 'oh, it's just an evolution of language', but which I find ugly or redundant - or just plain wrong!

[ToftySheepdog]

My GP sent me an an invite to a consult for myself. 😊

[AndiOliversGlasses]

I think I know the thread you mean and I almost posted about it myself but I knew it was not appropriate to do so on the thread itself 😀.

I think it is widely used to mean “consultation” in America so people are just mimicking what they hear on TV.

[ColleenDonaghy]

It's an abbreviation with a different pronunciation.

I consult on a case (cun-SULT).

I have an appointment for a consult. (CON-sult, short for consultation)