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A question about dates and rules.

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Citrusandginger · 17/11/2023 14:31

Help! I went to school in the 70's / 80's so wasn't taught grammar and I'm trying to understand something about writing dates. Can anyone guide me?

I've just written a formal letter including the sentence we sent x on 3rd June and blah blah blah. Miscrosoft has given me a blue underline for this and is suggesting I change it to 3rd of June. In my head that just sounds wrong but I'm willing to be corrected.

So what is them rules and am I right or wrong?

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DappledThings · 22/11/2023 22:56

Just 3 June. In a formal, business letter it would be just that.

EBearhug · 22/11/2023 23:01

Yes - I think things have changed since we were st school (we must be a similar age,) because of email and so on.

I'd put 3 June or 3rd June, even though you'd probablysay 3rd of June if you read it out loud.

I frequently argue with Word about this sort of thing, and usually have the grammar checker turned off because it's so annoying.

HardcoreLadyType · 22/11/2023 23:04

I write business letters and emails all the time, and would write 3 June.

Microsoft may be using an American format?

Aparecium · 22/11/2023 23:06

Americanism, perhaps?

Word defaults to American English. IIRC you can change to British English in settings, but Americanisms do still slip though. You can tell the checker to ignore them.

Citrusandginger · 23/11/2023 09:47

Thanks all. I definitely have UK English and not US turned on, so not that. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who frequently disagrees with Microsoft though. Smile

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TheAverageJoanne · 26/11/2023 11:40

Being really pedantic it's those rules. Not them rules.

DappledThings · 26/11/2023 14:28

TheAverageJoanne · 26/11/2023 11:40

Being really pedantic it's those rules. Not them rules.

I think the m was a typo. It was meant to be the rules. Neither them or those makes as much sense in the context as the would.

Daftasabroom · 26/11/2023 14:46

I insist on 03 Jun 2023 for any work stuff. We're in a very international industry and that's the shortest unambiguous date format I know.

Citrusandginger · 26/11/2023 16:00

TheAverageJoanne · 26/11/2023 11:40

Being really pedantic it's those rules. Not them rules.

Ha ha, I was being sarcastic, but I guess that didn't come across Blush.

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greyhairnomore · 26/11/2023 18:38

@Citrusandginger I went to school in the 70s and 80s and I was definitely taught grammar.

EBearhug · 26/11/2023 19:31

Daftasabroom · 26/11/2023 14:46

I insist on 03 Jun 2023 for any work stuff. We're in a very international industry and that's the shortest unambiguous date format I know.

I agree. It makes it clear you don't mean 6th March.

TheAverageJoanne · 26/11/2023 19:45

Well I was told at work that a big event was going ahead June 24. Turned out, when I'd done all the publicity, it was a date in June next year not 24 June. If the full year had been included it'd have saved a lot of hassle.

footfault98 · 26/11/2023 20:51

Daftasabroom · 26/11/2023 14:46

I insist on 03 Jun 2023 for any work stuff. We're in a very international industry and that's the shortest unambiguous date format I know.

Er, isn't 3 Jun 2023 shorter? Ie without the leading zero.

EBearhug · 26/11/2023 21:20

Yes, but 03 shows you've not accidentally forgotten a leading 1 or 2.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/11/2023 21:27

Yes, but 03 shows you've not accidentally forgotten a leading 1 or 2.

That makes no sense to me! Why would it show that any more than it could mean that you've accidentally typed a 0 instead of a 1, or just accidentally added a zero? Or typed the 3 and the zero the wrong way around when it was meant to be 30?

thentheycameforme · 26/11/2023 22:41

Think I disagree with the majority, I would write June 3rd but if you lead with the date, I would add of so 3rd of June

HardcoreLadyType · 26/11/2023 22:45

thentheycameforme · 26/11/2023 22:41

Think I disagree with the majority, I would write June 3rd but if you lead with the date, I would add of so 3rd of June

Are you American? Month then day is quite unusual in the UK. I have never seen the date written like this, since starting office work in the early 90s.

HappiestSleeping · 28/11/2023 10:17

thentheycameforme · 26/11/2023 22:41

Think I disagree with the majority, I would write June 3rd but if you lead with the date, I would add of so 3rd of June

Plus one for this one. It is how I was taught in school in the seventies and eighties.

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