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"OFF OF". Hideous crime against English language. Discuss.

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UnquietDad · 04/03/2008 10:37

That's it really.

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Eliza2 · 04/03/2008 13:19

Can we also talk about the unnecessary 'of' in this context:

'There are no shops outside of the town.'

Wordsmith · 04/03/2008 13:26

Iorek ... re your daughter's enquiry, you should explain that she should have said, "What are you laughing at, mummy?"

IorekByrnison · 04/03/2008 13:33

lol Wordsmith - you are right, what was I thinking of?

padboz · 04/03/2008 13:39

can someone brainy explain why "on to" is acceptable, while "off of" isn't?

auntieem · 04/03/2008 13:44

I have only read the title not the whole thread but God it makes my blood boil. I have had the ILs down for a long weekend and they seemed to leave certain words at home - "I'll read it you" I am sorry there is a word missing it is "to" a short word and easy word please don't forget it. I also realised my dh has started doing it too

Threadworm · 04/03/2008 13:47

I might be totally wrong, padboz, but I think it's because you aren't meant to pile prepositions together -- using two where one would do. So, 'from' rather than 'off of'; and 'onto', as a single word.

Kindersurpise · 04/03/2008 13:52

"Off of" is horrible.

I do not get "off of from". I am being particularly dim and cannot think when that would be used.

onebatmother · 04/03/2008 15:04

yes, Iorek, 'what you laughing at' is a little .. A-Team, no?

IorekByrnison · 04/03/2008 15:06

Or maybe Different Strokes, as in "what you talking about Willis"

onebatmother · 04/03/2008 15:15

Indeed. Neither are role-models I would commend to any daughter of mine.

IorekByrnison · 04/03/2008 15:19

Perhaps not. Tempting though.

onebatmother · 04/03/2008 15:21

Yes. You could have a big cigar, and your daughter could have a mohican and a medallion. That would stir things up a bit at playgroup.

IorekByrnison · 04/03/2008 15:21

rofl

UnquietDad · 04/03/2008 16:20

I also dislike (but not hate) "out of", as in "That Phil Oakley [sic] out of the Yewman [sic] League".

Why not "Phil Oakey from the Human League"?

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UnquietDad · 04/03/2008 16:21

"I pity the fool who tries to get me off of the runway" ?

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Kindersurpise · 04/03/2008 17:44

Please, someone educate me!

"Out of from"

I really cannnot think how this would be used.

onebatmother · 04/03/2008 19:14

I think it was hyperbole for comic effect Kinder

Kindersurpise · 04/03/2008 19:23

OBM
Thank God for that. I thought I was missing something important

I live in Germany so am not up to date on the latest slang anyway. I have been updating my vocabulary with MN these past months.

pruners · 04/03/2008 19:25

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Iklboo · 05/03/2008 14:17

Saw a comedy sketch where they were talking about "him off of out of". Brilliant!

Kindersurpise · 05/03/2008 19:25

Jura at "the bus I have just got off of from"

Threadworm · 06/03/2008 11:12

BRILLIANT letter in yesterday's Guardian:

Mario Petrucci asks whether your editorial team can get its journalists to "knock the 'of' off of 'off'". "'Of' off of 'off of'", surely?

IorekByrnison · 06/03/2008 11:27

Threadworm, you've just shortcircuited my brain.

IorekByrnison · 06/03/2008 11:28

And, pedants, please be generous over my use of "shortcircuited".

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