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2am in the morning

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lewiscapaldi · 17/03/2023 08:25

It's just 2am!

This is so widespread, see it absolutely everywhere. Drives me mad 🫠

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Lemonandorange · 17/03/2023 08:39

I have a water bottle with times on it, 6am, 9am, 12pm, 15pm, 21pm
It annoys me a lot more than it should

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redspottedmug · 17/03/2023 08:53

I agree!

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BridieConvert · 17/03/2023 12:11

Lemonandorange · 17/03/2023 08:39

I have a water bottle with times on it, 6am, 9am, 12pm, 15pm, 21pm
It annoys me a lot more than it should

Oh this is infuriating!

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Tapenade · 17/03/2023 12:14

I blame Mike Oldfield (although that was “4am in the morning” IIRC)

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MorrisZapp · 17/03/2023 12:18

I'm annoyed that people are annoyed by this!

It's just the way people speak. Loads of words we use are redundant but it would be a sad day if we only clipped back to only the exact words necessary to be understood.

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JenniferBarkley · 17/03/2023 12:36

I think it's typically used for emphasis.

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cocksstrideintheevening · 17/03/2023 14:09

And this is why I work in the 24hr clock!

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lewiscapaldi · 17/03/2023 19:50

MorrisZapp · 17/03/2023 12:18

I'm annoyed that people are annoyed by this!

It's just the way people speak. Loads of words we use are redundant but it would be a sad day if we only clipped back to only the exact words necessary to be understood.

I hear you. And some examples of that I don't mind...

Eg when people say "literally" and don't mean it - eg "I LITERALLY shat myself in that meeting."

But this 2am in the morning one for some reason really gets to me 😂

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AuntieStella · 17/03/2023 19:58

I remember having this very debate with my DSis yonks ago.

Based on Mike Oldfield's single 'Moonlight Shadow' which includes the immensely irritating line "4 am in the morning"

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MrsMorton · 17/03/2023 20:03

This twists my melon.

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JoanThursday1972 · 31/03/2023 16:42

AuntieStella · 17/03/2023 19:58

I remember having this very debate with my DSis yonks ago.

Based on Mike Oldfield's single 'Moonlight Shadow' which includes the immensely irritating line "4 am in the morning"

They could have just as easily said 4 o'clock in the morning.

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MorrisZapp · 31/03/2023 16:53

Songwriters know what they're doing. 4 am in the morning sounds much more flowy and ethereal than 4 o'clock. Each syllable is chosen with care.

I've got to get the tea on but I'm well up for a full discussion about this so I'll come back later. Not... too much later though.

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AuntieStella · 31/03/2023 18:46

Yes I think "4 o'clock in the morning" would have been better.

He could have gone with "4am that morning" as that could also be sung to fit. (but I don't think it needs to be particularly ethereal as it's a song about murder)

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