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Why am I still seeing ‘could of’ and other really annoying stuff?

100 replies

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 18:02

People have pointed out here on MN so often that surely everyone must be aware by now, that ‘could of’ makes no sense. It is ‘could have’ or ‘could’ve’. ‘Bare with me’ , is another, but I’m sure they don’t mean get naked! We will of course ‘bear with’ you.

‘My friend and I’ going somewhere is always more pleasant to read (or hear) than ‘me and my friend’ or the even worse ‘myself and my friend’.

I’m aware I’m pedantic, I know its all been said before, but I can’t stop an involuntary wince when I suddenly spot one or more of the above. And I don’t think I’m alone. Am i?

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock1 · 26/10/2022 19:03

Children are at school for around 14 years, which is plenty long enough for these things to be drummed into almost all of them.
Yes because every school is the same and every child has the same opportunity and support to learn.
Is that correct?
I don't think so.
Many of the students in my school had a heroin addiction at 14 an inner city school.
Some grew up with addict parents, some had parents with learning difficulties, some were starving, only a few came out unscathed.

Sago1 · 26/10/2022 19:09

When I was a TA I was supporting a pupil I. English, the teacher said “The homework what I set you last week, I need it in on Friday”

CheezePleeze · 26/10/2022 19:09

EmeraldShamrock1 · 26/10/2022 19:03

Children are at school for around 14 years, which is plenty long enough for these things to be drummed into almost all of them.
Yes because every school is the same and every child has the same opportunity and support to learn.
Is that correct?
I don't think so.
Many of the students in my school had a heroin addiction at 14 an inner city school.
Some grew up with addict parents, some had parents with learning difficulties, some were starving, only a few came out unscathed.

Yes but the OP's involuntary wince is obviously more important than that.

So if any of those people (or others like them) are reading this thread, I'm sure they'll be fine about yet another internet random trying to make them feel inferior.

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 19:10

I would never correct any poster personally, neither would I call someone a twat. I’ve also read some very judgemental posts about really sensitive issues.

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MortalWomb4t · 26/10/2022 19:12

I notice, yes. However I never really pick apart a person's spelling and grammar. Mine isn't perfect either. In my 42 years I still muddle up which order i's and e's go into.

worraliberty · 26/10/2022 19:12

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 19:10

I would never correct any poster personally, neither would I call someone a twat. I’ve also read some very judgemental posts about really sensitive issues.

When people with poor spelling and grammar read thread after thread like this on internet fora, how do you think it might make them feel?

ChocolateCinderToffee · 26/10/2022 19:13

The one that gets me is the increasing number of people saying 'outwith'.

IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU LOOK CLEVER!

Georgyporky · 26/10/2022 19:14

I'm proud to be a pedant.
I was brung up in a proper gramer skool, & cunt bare to reed some of the crap posted on hear.

However, no point in correcting anyone as ill always be in the rong four daring to mention it.

Port1aCastis · 26/10/2022 19:16

Georgyporky · 26/10/2022 19:14

I'm proud to be a pedant.
I was brung up in a proper gramer skool, & cunt bare to reed some of the crap posted on hear.

However, no point in correcting anyone as ill always be in the rong four daring to mention it.

😀😀😀😀
You is a proper peedant

SellingFairytales · 26/10/2022 19:19

You are 'still seeing' it because people are still doing it. People don't have to dance to the beat of your drum. It's perplexing that you thought they were going to.

Barbie222 · 26/10/2022 19:26

It's surely to do with how much exposure you have to the correct form vs the incorrect - if your reading mostly consists of social media feed and texts from a range of illiterate acquaintance, that'll be the 'normal' you default to.

girlmom21 · 26/10/2022 19:29

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 19:10

I would never correct any poster personally, neither would I call someone a twat. I’ve also read some very judgemental posts about really sensitive issues.

So much irony.

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 19:29

@SellingFairytales Not my drum. People can write however they choose. I might wince, but that doesn’t hurt anyone either.

I apologise to anyone who is upset by my post. If anyone wants to have the thread removed, feel free.

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Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:29

Seymour5 · 26/10/2022 18:02

People have pointed out here on MN so often that surely everyone must be aware by now, that ‘could of’ makes no sense. It is ‘could have’ or ‘could’ve’. ‘Bare with me’ , is another, but I’m sure they don’t mean get naked! We will of course ‘bear with’ you.

‘My friend and I’ going somewhere is always more pleasant to read (or hear) than ‘me and my friend’ or the even worse ‘myself and my friend’.

I’m aware I’m pedantic, I know its all been said before, but I can’t stop an involuntary wince when I suddenly spot one or more of the above. And I don’t think I’m alone. Am i?

Because too many people are ignorant and clearly didn’t pay attention at school.

NannyGythaOgg · 26/10/2022 19:31

Whilst some of them irritate me (myself and yourself used incorrectly mostly as I am increasingly hearing it in real life). I wouldn't dream of commenting on here as it is my problem not theirs - and I make many mistakes any way.

What I find quite strange in a good way is that we all seem to know what order adjectives come in. I can't put them into a list of the correct order but I, and it seems most others, just 'know' the correct order.

As in: I've never heard or seen written 'the red big car' or 'the summer, cotton, green dress'. People just know those examples are wrong, even though I don't think we have ever been formally taught it.

Doesn't seem to matter where in the UK, America or any other country with English as a first language, mostly we aren't even aware we know it - we just do.

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:33

I find it amusing when people who makes grammatical errors try to defend themselves by reassuring everyone that this is an informal forum they allow themselves to make mistakes. Lol

It’s the height of nonsense - obviously - because if you know how to my spell something or how to write in grammatical English, you’re not going to give yourself a day off now and again and jolly well make mistakes. 🤣

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:34

…who make…

Rhondaa · 26/10/2022 19:35

'It’s the height of nonsense - obviously - because if you know how to my spell something or how to write in grammatical English, you’re not going to give yourself a day off now and again and jolly well make mistakes'

'my'?

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:36

…so they allow themselves…

(PLEASE may we have an Edit feature?!)

Rhondaa · 26/10/2022 19:36

I'd back out slowly if I were you @Cam22 Grin

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:37

Rhondaa · 26/10/2022 19:35

'It’s the height of nonsense - obviously - because if you know how to my spell something or how to write in grammatical English, you’re not going to give yourself a day off now and again and jolly well make mistakes'

'my'?

See my post about an Edit feature! 🙂

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:37

I was typing fast, Miss.

LikeTearsInRain · 26/10/2022 19:38

All you posters are discusting

Rhondaa · 26/10/2022 19:38

Cam22 · 26/10/2022 19:37

I was typing fast, Miss.

'I find it amusing when people who makes grammatical errors try to defend themselves'

Said by, ahem, you.

Malfi · 26/10/2022 19:45

NannyGythaOgg · 26/10/2022 19:31

Whilst some of them irritate me (myself and yourself used incorrectly mostly as I am increasingly hearing it in real life). I wouldn't dream of commenting on here as it is my problem not theirs - and I make many mistakes any way.

What I find quite strange in a good way is that we all seem to know what order adjectives come in. I can't put them into a list of the correct order but I, and it seems most others, just 'know' the correct order.

As in: I've never heard or seen written 'the red big car' or 'the summer, cotton, green dress'. People just know those examples are wrong, even though I don't think we have ever been formally taught it.

Doesn't seem to matter where in the UK, America or any other country with English as a first language, mostly we aren't even aware we know it - we just do.

There is a set order, but you’re right - native speakers just absorb this knowledge without being taught it.

The rule is that multiple adjectives are always ranked accordingly: opinion, size, age, shape, colour, origin, material, purpose.