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I'm having an 'its' problem - Please clarify it for me?

20 replies

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 21:00

the setting requires that it?s day-to-day management needs to be delegated safely to a suitably qualified person

I put the apostrophe in its because doesn't the day-to-day management belong to the setting?

Or not?

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ravenAK · 25/01/2008 21:02

Not with a possessive 'its' - it works like 'his' or 'hers' or 'ours'.

You DO need one for 'it's' = 'it is', to show omission.

HTH!

Iota · 25/01/2008 21:02

no

janeite · 25/01/2008 21:03

No apostrophe on "its" unless you are shortening "it is" to "it's".

Iota · 25/01/2008 21:03

wot raven said

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 21:04

OK - don't understand but will use as MN has said its right (is that right?)

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joyfulspike · 25/01/2008 21:04

I think it should be its becuase if the setting was he or she, then the management would be his or her iyswim?

the woman requires that her day to day management etc

I think

Iota · 25/01/2008 21:05

no - MN has said it's right

ravenAK · 25/01/2008 21:06

No, sorry! You DO need one for 'it's right' short for 'it is right', because it shows a missing letter.

Basically, you only need an apostrophe in 'its' if it's short for 'it is'.

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 21:08

Poop - I will never understand english

Never mind - I can do math

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LadyCellophane · 25/01/2008 21:28

Exactly as ravenAK just said.

tissy · 25/01/2008 21:33

but while we're in pedants' corner, you don't need a question mark at the end of your title- It's an imperative, not a question !

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 21:47

Is it?

What's that then?

(are they questions?)

You wait until you lot need maths homework done

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fingerwoman · 25/01/2008 21:51

you aren't asking if we can clarify it. you are saying "clarify it"
that isn't a question, and doesn't need a question mark.

it's only has an apostrophe if it is short for "it is" the apostrophe is marking the abbreviation.

RustyBear · 25/01/2008 21:58

"Not with a possessive 'its' - it works like 'his' or 'hers' or 'ours'."

I've just been re-reading Sense & Sensibility & noticed that Jane Austen puts an apostrophe in her's.
Which seems to indicate that dropping it is a relatvely modern thing (or that JA was just as confused as Katymac....)

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 21:59

I thought I said
please clarify it(the problem) for me

So isn't
please clarify the problem for me

a question? (it sounds like a question)

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Pesha · 25/01/2008 22:03

It would be a question if you said 'Can you please clarify it for me?'.

But 'Clarify it for me' is just a statement saying 'Do this!' not asking us if we will or not!! Albeit politely!

KatyMac · 25/01/2008 22:06

I'm sticking with Trig & quadratics - this English stuff is HARD

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Pesha · 25/01/2008 22:07

With who and wotsits now?!

Pesha · 25/01/2008 22:09

I'm actually waiting for someone to come and tell me I'm wrong!

It's been a long time since I did any writing I had to think about. These days its all MN and...um...thats it really

ravenAK · 25/01/2008 22:09

It is fairly modern that 'its' is regarded as a possessive pronoun, I think.

Actually I think I should've said like 'her' or 'our' not 'hers' or 'ours' - it would be 'The cat ate its dinner' OR 'The cat ate her dinner', NOT 'The cat ate hers dinner' after all!

(Confusing myself now - oh dear...)

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