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pronouncing either/neither

25 replies

geekymummy · 07/01/2008 20:57

Either as eever or eye-the?

Neither as neever or nigh-the?

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ladymixalot · 07/01/2008 21:35

I think (though not sure) it is purely a matter of preference, though no doubt there have been various historical trends. I use both - no conscious reason, just depends on what sounds right with the rest of the sentence.

Let's call the whole thing off.

geekymummy · 07/01/2008 21:38
Grin
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TheStepfordChav · 07/01/2008 21:39

Doesn't it epends where you're brought up? On your accent? Or perhaps it is just preference, regardless of accent. FWIW I'm from London & I say eye-ther.

TheStepfordChav · 07/01/2008 21:40

Ouch. Depend, not epends.

Twiglett · 07/01/2008 21:40

eye-the is fine although not with the 'v' ... it's eye-the or ee-ther (I'm the former personally)

SpawnChorus · 07/01/2008 21:42

Well I'd say that the 'v' in 'eever' and 'neever' is wrong. I personally say 'eyether' and 'nighther'.

pointydog · 07/01/2008 21:43

either way, it don't matter

SorenLorensen · 07/01/2008 21:44

I think I say both. But mostly eye-the and nigh-the. Ds1 sometimes says neever and somefing so I hit him with a big stick I keep for such occasions

ladymixalot · 07/01/2008 21:46

'Neever' is probably appropriate if the whole sentence is 'I ain't done nuffink neever', or similar.

Twiglett · 07/01/2008 21:47

yes you do moo

susiecutiemincepies · 07/01/2008 21:47

Well, eether or neether is fine, as is eye-the or nye-the

eever or neever is wrong, where ever you come from. even if its a colloquial accent... the word is not spelt with a V anywhere, so it makes no difference how you pronounce it, so long as the blardy V is not there.

SorenLorensen · 07/01/2008 21:48

OK I do...but not very hard.

susiecutiemincepies · 07/01/2008 21:49

As is starting a sentence without a capital letter...

geekymummy · 07/01/2008 23:40

lol I know, I messed up wiv [sic] the v

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PrismManchip · 07/01/2008 23:44

Apparently there is a study somewhere that says that we all use both variants and it depends on the vowel sounds in the preceding and following bits of the utterance.
So people are likely to say "Neither I not John" as nye-the (because of the "I") but "I didn't see him either" would be ee-the (because of "see").
If that makes sense.

PrismManchip · 07/01/2008 23:45

That would be nor not not (new keyboard, honest...)

PrismManchip · 07/01/2008 23:46

And if you said "I didn't see him either" it'd be more likely to be eye-the because of the stress on I.

PeachesMcLean · 07/01/2008 23:48

Reading this, I pronounce the first eee and the second eye.

Neether John nor Jane won the game. N-eye-ther thought it was fair.

Don't know why I do that,

littlelapin · 08/01/2008 00:03

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susiecutiemincepies · 08/01/2008 00:46

Thats interesting prism. I hadn't thought of that. It is true though, I just checked myself saying a few sentences ( my god, I need a life )

foofi · 08/01/2008 07:02

Well, considering this is in Pedants' Corner, most of you are wrong.

Should be 'eye'ther, and 'nye'-ther

geekymummy · 08/01/2008 08:16

Found this on Wikipedia

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susiecutiemincepies · 08/01/2008 10:31

Foofi, it is incredibly difficult to 'explain' pronunciation in written text...

I dont see whats wrong with eye-the nye-the. The word THE and THER is actually pronounced the same way in this case. The difference his hardly audible. IMO

Give it a go!

foofi · 08/01/2008 15:36

I agree Suzie - it's the first part of the words people are talking about - either an ee sound or eye sound.

MsHighwater · 10/01/2008 21:26

I say both. I don't know what it depends on - never thought about it - just what seems to sound best, I suppose.

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