Me and Sue or Sue and I???

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So usually I use the rule take the other person out and if it makes sense then it is right, eg:

'Sue and I will be there at 9pm.'

If I take out Sue, it still makes sense.

'Me and Sue know where the restaurant is.'

That is wrong because if I take out Sue, I wouldn't say, 'Me know where the restaurant is.'

But what about if I'm texting a friend that both Sue and I have arrived.

Obviously, I can write, 'Sue and I have arrived.' But, that seems a bit formal! Can I write or say...

'Me and Sue are here.'

Or

'Sue and I are here.'

If Sue is taken out of these sentences, then they don't make sense. Does that mean they are both wrong?

Thanks.

Sue and I are here is correct.

Sue and I are here is right. In this instance, “Sue and I” equates to “we” (ie we are here), so takes that form of the verb, if that makes sense?

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Sue and I are here is right. In this instance, “Sue and I” equates to “we” (ie we are here), so takes that form of the verb, if that makes sense?

This!

"Sue and I are here" is correct .
If Sue was out of the sentence then you would say "I am here" , "are" was previously used as the verb "to be" was in the plural .
You wouldn't say "Me is here" thus "Me and Sue are here" is incorrect x

It would change to I am here, so that one is correct.

Aren’t you supposed to use the one you’d use anyway even without the other name?

"Sue and I are here" is right, because if you took out Sue, the verb 'to be' would change to the singular 'am' from the plural 'we are', so the sentence would be "I am here".

'Sue and I are here' is correct. If you take out Sue, you'd just change 'are' to 'am' - plural to singular.

You could just say 'we're here' if you want to be less formal.

(Sue and I) = we

(Me and Sue) = us

And then the rule still holds.

And I think including the 'both' that you use to describe your scenario might be useful for phrasing your text message 'Sue and I have both arrived' - even less formal 'I'm here. Sue too'

I'd say "we're here." 🤷‍♀️

I’d say ‘Sue and I’, but probably text ‘we’re here’, or ‘I’m here with Sue’.

I think you’re right that ‘Sue and I’ seems overly formal in texts, but I wouldn’t send something that seems as incorrect as ‘Sue and me’ in that context.

Take Sue out of the picture and you’ll know what to use.

He gave Sue and I a discount
He gave Sue and I a discount X
He gave Sue and me a discount 👍

When Sue and me come for dinner…
When Sue and me come for dinner X
When Sue and I come for dinner
When Sue and I come for dinner 👍

You’d say I am here.
When there’s more than one of you, you’d say we are here.
Sue and I are here.

Thank you to all those that answered the question specifically relating to 'are here'. I think I understand it now.