Arguably...

[onebatmother]

Well? 'It can be argued that' or 'it's beyond argument that'?

after dinner magic!!?

you mean, beyond making dirty dishes disappear??

bloody hell, that sounds good though, in terms of a picture of family life.

hmm, realistically though suspect paris would have taken more planning than this - might be something equally lovely but less foreign and garliky and froggy though?
with apols to any frogs reading.

lol - perhaps whiten my face with chalk to enhance the unbearable miserableness of PE? And so much the better for contrasting the artistic palate of Valpolicella tache and Lancome smudge? Onebatmother - we are on to something. A new movement in art, bigger than the concrete crack I reckon.

why not use doughballs as eyeballs to press your point home?

I fear he is going to get up and go to work and then suggest a restaurant for not more than £4.99 per head for a suitable celebration at around 6pm.

Onebatmother - lol @ doughballs. With garlic butter or without?

I think a sprig of parsley or basil - to lift the black (mascara), white (chalk face) and red (house red moustache - Valpolicella - who am I kidding?) - might make me look charming.

oh swedes i cna't bear it but i must go to bed..
my advice -don't be sullen and difficult in front of dc'\s
be very sullen and diff when alone with dp unless you still think that there's a poss that there is something good still in the pipeline.

Okay so here's the schedule:

Wed 28 Nov: lovely happy swedes

Wed 5 Dec: swedes suddenly and unaccountably very mean to dp.

night-o

and hippo birdie

Onebatmother - thanks. Tomorrow I shall bake bread, be constant and content.

nnooooo not surrendered wife! Rather, reaper of just rewards! you know what i mean.

Pizza Express or Paris? Did DP get Doughballs or Doe-Eyes?
Am dying to know.

Onebatmother - I hardly dare speak its name. T'was not the beast Pizza Express but nor was it a trip to the Continent. It was pasta with pancetta and cheddar served directly onto plates in the kitchen. No pudding. Noone in the mood for magic shows. Is it me or is this a tad disappointing?

Oh Swedes

Oh christ, I don't know. Every year, I have a conversation wtih DP where he says 'I don't know what to get you and I'm working so hard I don't have time' and I say, don't worry , it's fine, God knows you're under the cosh and it's the thought that counts.

And then I get pissed and very, very hurt on the night itself and wail is it too much to ask that somebody - anybody - thinks, just once, of what might make ME happy. Just for one bloody, bloody night of the year?

Every year, same conv, probably 10 years now.

Does DP cook the rest of the time? ie was this rather ..limp..Special Treat, poorly executed but with good intentions?

have to say I don't think they geddit.

HAAAAAPPPPY BIIIIIRTHDAY!

by 'pissed' i mean 'pissed' not 'pissed off', because that would be stupid.

Onebatmother - LOL - thanks for your kind words. He said he thought I didn't want to go out. About a week ago he asked me: "Would you like me to book...... restaurant?" I did not really answer. Because of course the point is I want him to say: "I would like to take you here, I have booked it - shall I sort out the babysitter?". I told him that every birthday, anniversary and valentines day, I would want him to make the effort and take the initiative to sort out a suitable something for those occasions. I feel like taking a full page Ad out in the Times. It could be my legacy - the woman who ended the Birthday/anniversay/valentine disappointment for womenkind and ended birthday/anniversary/valentine confusion for mankind. It would read - Don't you dare not to anything for her birthday, anniversary, etc. Ignore the mixed messages - they lead you to a trap-door that ends with red wine moustaches, and mascara smudges for her and you feeling like an arse even though your intentions were good.
I can't wait til Valentines day .

LOLOLOLOL! DO IT! DO IT NOW!

surely this is worth a Dwoning ST petition and tombola fundraising??

In the venus mars books (which DP bought ahhhh), it says that women say: "The trash is full|" when we should say "The Trash is full, please empty it". Giant LOL.

mr bat also pedant would say 'you mean rubbish my dear' as he firmly closed study door.

glad you are sanguine.

OBM _ it could be worse - he could actually be an American.

I think people use "arguably" when they want to make an assertion which isn't actually beyond doubt, but for which there is evidence. Sometimes it's if it;s a tenuous assertion but they want to make it sound stronger in order to progress to the next stage of a thesis.

So, yes, "it can be argued".

I don't like the word arguably: I like economy of language. Arguably is almost always dispensable. Would Chekhov have used it?
The parish church was four miles away. It arguably had the prettiest view in the whole of Kosogorovo.

you're quite right swedes