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Nameisjustaname · 24/08/2020 14:58

( Name of company) TAKES immense pleasure in inviting you...
(Name of company) TAkE immense pleasure in inviting you...

They are both correct to me but don't know the ruling. I understand we, I and they take as opposed to she, he and it takes.
Thank you

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3catsandcounting · 24/08/2020 17:25

I think it's 'Company name' TAKES pleasure, as it's a single body, not a group of people? Is that what you mean?

Inching · 24/08/2020 17:29

The company is a single entity, so treat it as if it's a single person eg 'Angela takes pleasure in inviting you to her sophisticated Ann Summers sale party.' 'Waitrose takes pleasure in inviting you to a sleepover in the frozen food aisle.'

Todayissunny · 24/08/2020 17:35

It's present simple.
I/you/we/they take
He/she/it(name of company) takes

iklboo · 24/08/2020 17:39

Agree with PP. The company is an entity and so becomes an 'it'.

UnaOfStormhold · 24/08/2020 17:43

The confusion arises because you're referring to a group of people with a singular noun - grammatically the singular is correct but the plural feels right because mentally you are thinking of more than one thing.

topcat2014 · 24/08/2020 18:21

Mind you, Waitrose is a partnership, especially now they call themselves Waitrose and partners, so that might change the view

Nameisjustaname · 24/08/2020 20:29

Thank you all for your input. Very helpful. Google is not great at breaking down specificsGrin

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Falleninwiththewrongcrowd · 25/08/2020 01:12

Apparently there's a difference between American and British usage: in American English a collective noun like "company", "group", "family", "government", and so on generally takes the singular verb form, whereas in British English, it will often take to the plural form, especially where you want to emphasize the fact that the company, group or whatever is composed of a number of individuals. Individual speakers have their own preferences, but there is no definitive rule. Whichever one you use, somebody may say you're wrong. I'd go with whatever you think sounds right, which could also depend, in this case, on the company name. Search engine terms: "collective noun" and "verb agreement" should give more de

Falleninwiththewrongcrowd · 25/08/2020 01:14

... details and examples if required.

DramaAlpaca · 25/08/2020 01:15

Agree with others above. The company is a single entity so TAKES is correct.

If it was, for example, Company and Partners, TAKE would be correct.

seayork2020 · 25/08/2020 01:18

Takes is all i have ever heard in this context- not saying what is right though i just dont remember any different

FlamedToACrisp · 31/08/2020 01:27

What if the company name is a plural, such as Crystal Cakes? I think it would be TAKE in this context.

UnaOfStormhold · 31/08/2020 07:08

If you're referring to the company then it would still be singular, though definitely with increased temptation to use the plural. I think the only time you'd treat it as plural is if you were saying something like "Crystal Cakes are delicious", though arguably that should be "The cakes made by Crystal Cakes are delicious".

Andpppy · 31/08/2020 07:24

I am sad that I find this thread enthralling- but I do.

Nameisjustaname · 31/08/2020 13:42

The company name is singular if that helpsSmile
Thank you you all for your contributions, so helpful.

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Nameisjustaname · 31/08/2020 13:43

Andpppy - I do tooGrin

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