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Writing "of" instead of "have"

110 replies

SmartPlay · 26/08/2019 21:22

Why? Just why?

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banivani · 27/08/2019 09:48

Excellent post Bertie!

NoTheresa · 27/08/2019 10:38

I think it was a science teacher of some kind.

Naughty!

bodgeitandscarper · 27/08/2019 10:52

I think the lack of reading is a huge issue. I can also remember schools not correcting grammar at one point, whereas it had been a major part of education when I went to school.

A friend of mine will always write 'an' instead of 'and', she was corrected by somebody on facebook to not forget her 'd's, (not me!) but I don't think she had a clue what they were on about.
I see could of written so much now that it hardly registers.

Hazza000 · 27/08/2019 10:56

Does my head in. Also ppl who write defiantly instead of definitely 😂🙈

coffeebliss · 27/08/2019 10:58

Wow. If you actually can't understand why people make these mistakes, the different social contexts that people grow up in, the different educational opportunities that they are given, then isn't it ironic that you are judging other people about their ignorance?

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 27/08/2019 11:01

A lot of Americans make the mistake too I've noticed.

Confusedbeetle · 27/08/2019 11:02

Poor grammar is either a lack of education or knowledge. Why should someone be criticised if they dont know something? Does that make their opinion less valid? If something is drummed into you as a child, like for instance putting the top back on the toothpaste, or good manners, then it will annoy you in later life if other people dont do this. Think about it, your indocrination is judging other people. Good grammar is great, but so is an understanding of where another person is coming from. MN has a reputation for lack of inclusiveness and a snobbery about education or lack of. You only have to see some of the Brexit posts to understand how some people feel superior beccause they were lucky enough to have a good education

FlibbertyGiblets · 27/08/2019 11:07

Muphry's Law

campion · 27/08/2019 11:11

After 11 years of compulsory education in this country, it isn't too much to ask that someone should know the difference between of and have.

I think social media is the biggest factor in its increase, but once you have 'learned' a mistake it is difficult to unlearn it. Especially if you are unaware it is a mistake!

CendrillonSings · 27/08/2019 11:15

It correlates strongly with a general lack of education, much like the inability to correctly distinguish “its” from “it’s” - no regular reader will make those kinds of mistakes.

Suebnm · 27/08/2019 11:19

I am an online sex worker and I see the absolute worst spelling of anyone anywhere. These are adult married men usually over 28.

A couple of examples from today

Beird (beard)
Twomaro (tomorrow)
Desine (design)
Granate (granted)

There are literally hundreds more, they cannot all be down to dyslexia or any learning problems. They just make me laugh but messages that use 'your' when they should have used 'you're' make me feel sick.

vickibee · 27/08/2019 11:23

I also get annoyed with hope your well, instead of you're. It drives me nuts. My DH Is dyslexic and gets loads of spg wrong and he is sensitive about it so I never say anything unless he asks. I guess people are not taught or haven't read widely enough

Ticklemeelmo · 27/08/2019 11:37

Stop blaming our education system for this lack of basic grammar skills. I've only ever witnessed these types of errors from native English speakers, never by those who've learned it as a second language.

HopeMumsnet · 27/08/2019 11:37

Hi OP,
Not to be too pedantic but strictly speaking this post should have gone into Pedants' Corner... don't worry, we of fixed it. ;D

FatTwat69 · 27/08/2019 11:46

Apostrophes are another one.
I’ve seen lots of signs last week.

Coffee’s!
Come and see the seal’s, dolphin’s!
Free wine on Monday’s!

I work in a school and we are told not to correct every single grammatical error but I can’t let the rogue apostrophes and ‘ofs’ go unchecked.
If the kids aren’t told they’ll never learn and then they’ll grow up and still be doing it on Mumsnet in 20 yrs Grin

FlibbertyGiblets · 27/08/2019 11:46

Hope nicely done Grin.

TitchyP · 27/08/2019 11:46

As a teacher this drives me mad and I would correct a child at work but I wouldn't dream of correcting another adult.
Children are taught specifically about this error at school, btw.

NoTheresa · 27/08/2019 12:31

To
MN Hope:

Pedants’ Corner is not the best place for a thread from which people might learn. Who goes to that Corner anyway, on a daily basis?

coconuttelegraph · 27/08/2019 12:37

@hopemumsnet is this a new policy of moving threads to the “correct” topic?

Can we look forward to the removal of all and sundry threads from AIBU to more suitable areas?

SmartPlay · 27/08/2019 12:50

"Now people who write Ddog though... if I had to choose one annoying thing that would be it."

What does "Ddog" mean?

@BertieBotts Wow, that was a thorough insight- thank you for that! But if it then stems from the lack of reading it correctly, wouldn't people who make that mistake make a lot of other mistakes as well?

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SmartPlay · 27/08/2019 13:01

@coffeebliss I didn't judge, I asked. I seriously don't understand it!

"Poor grammar is either a lack of education or knowledge."

But is it really? Like I've mentioned before, I even notice this mistakes in posts that don't seem to have been written by people with low education.

@Suebnm Just out of curiosity: What does an online sex worker do?

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SmartPlay · 27/08/2019 13:03

^"Hi OP,
Not to be too pedantic but strictly speaking this post should have gone into Pedants' Corner... don't worry, we of fixed it. ;D"^

Why do you of to be so strict :( I didn't even know about the Pedants' Corner, should of checked. I'm not a fan've corners though!

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banivani · 27/08/2019 13:26

What does "Ddog" mean?

Well may you ask. it means "dog".

Since Mumsnet has the culture of referring to family members as "D" something - DH, DD, DS - there are a lot of people incapable of independent thought who think everyone in their household, man or beast, needs a D to exist.

If they wrote DD you'd assume they're talking about their daughter, but they can't possibly write just "dog". So it's Ddog. And it does my head in because NOTHING is gained by this.

Suebnm · 27/08/2019 13:41

@SmartPlay

We, I work for a company, answer messages from men hoping to cheat on their wives or girlfriends. It is a sort of online dating site for male cheaters. They never see me but I do see them.

Ticklemeelmo · 27/08/2019 16:12

Posters who write 'Ddog' infuriate me even more than those who can't differentiate between of and have.