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Rent or hire

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Heratnumber7 · 23/07/2017 18:01

Our foreign student PG just asked me when we use "rent" and when we use "hire"

I can usually answer most questions about the correct use of English, but this one has me stumped. Can anyone help??

Hire a car
Rent a house
Hire an employee
Rent an allotment

Is there a rule?

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LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 23/07/2017 18:12

What a good question!

You don't rent a person, but when it comes to objects I think they're interchangeable? It's more common to hire a car, but equally rent a car wouldn't be wrong. I'd rent a house but know hire a house is acceptable.

AgentProvocateur · 23/07/2017 18:14

Good question! In my mind (and based in no knowledge whatsoever!), you'd pay a one-off fee to hire something, and a monthly/weekly fee to rent something.

Heratnumber7 · 23/07/2017 18:19

Wow! Quick responses. Thank you both.

The one off fee seems to make sense.
Hire a boat,
Hire a car
Hire a servant

Rent a car
Rent a bike
Rent a house/holiday villa etc

You do see "car rentals", but I think that may be more American, "car hire" seems more usual.

The only fly in that ointment I can think of is "hire-purchase", but that's a standalone use of the word coupled with another word to mean something specific.

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Heratnumber7 · 23/07/2017 18:20

Rent a car isn't right, sorry 😊

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Hassled · 23/07/2017 18:20

Yes, I think Agent is right. You hire something for a specific purpose, a one-off use, and you rent something longer-term. But I'm making this up - it's not necessarily fact. And actually that doesn't work with "hire an employee" which proves I know nothing.

AgentProvocateur · 23/07/2017 18:25

Or rent a holiday home, which proves I just made it up and know nothing either! Grin

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 23/07/2017 18:29

Hiring an employee isn't the same as the continuous process of employing an employee though (in British English). Hiring relates to the one-off tasks of recruiting a person, iyswim?

Jim was hired as a janitor.
I'm hiring janitors at the moment.
At ACME we employ 178 janitors, we hired Jim last week.

Heratnumber7 · 23/07/2017 23:16

Thanks all.

It's not clear is it? I need to find my OED and see what they say.

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ExplodedCloud · 23/07/2017 23:22

I like the definition pertaining to a one off versus on-going situation. I think of hiring as an Americanism but maybe it's an older English phrase that's been retained in the US while falling out of use in England.

Isabella70 · 26/07/2017 13:28

The politician was disgraced for hiring rent boys.

My head now hurts...

SenecaFalls · 26/07/2017 15:18

In American English, you hire a person but rent an object. Hiring is the initial act in employment in American English; the ongoing relationship is employment.

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