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Bought and brought.........

53 replies

DesolateWaist · 02/12/2016 23:50

are two different fucking words!!!

Has everyone on MN fucking well forgotten this? I have seen 'brought' for 'bought' on three different bastard threads today.

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MessezFaire · 03/12/2016 01:44

Oh ffs I missed the " Grin

Insanityprofanity · 03/12/2016 02:09

Ha i was never very good with wording things and failed at english,mainly due to the punctuation marks. I knew where they went...i justnever remembered to put them in,untill the world wide web came along and made it dam clear how stupid i really was. not saying anything about the time i used question marks instead of full stops as at the age of 6/7 i still wasnt sure what a full stop was Confused

Insanityprofanity · 03/12/2016 02:17

Shit... posted to soon..

To add to the collection...

Affect and effect
Cause and course
Borrow and lend

Ya get the drift... 😊

My dh boss says pacific instead of specific,hes not corrected her yet though Hmm

OlennasWimple · 03/12/2016 02:53

If you lot don't tow the line, I'll have to reign you in Grin

(Do you know how hard it was to type that sentence.?)

SenecaFalls · 03/12/2016 03:13

Oh, it looks as though AIBU has spilled over into Pedants' corner. I do wish posters would keep the periodic MN linguistic superiority fests out of PC.

DesolateWaist · 03/12/2016 08:26

Sorry, Seneca, are you complaining that people are making pedantic posts in Pedants Corner?

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bibbitybobbityyhat · 03/12/2016 08:46

So many subjects that are overdone on Mumsnet! Threads about spag with the same old complaints about would of/prostrate/pacific/brought being posted on an almost daily basis. How incredibly dull and tedious it is! People aren't perfect ... go figure.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 03/12/2016 08:57

Ha! Seem to have cross posted with Seneca.

MiladyThesaurus · 03/12/2016 09:06

I don't actually understand the brought/bought error.

Most of the other common errors are either because people write it as they hear it (e.g. Would of) or to do with typos/minor spelling errors (defiantly/definitely).

But I can't figure out how the bought/brought error comes about at all. They don't sound alike at all and it doesn't seem to be just spelling. I've been wondering if it's an English thing - because br and b aren't likely to be confused in s rhotic accent. But they don't sound alike when (southern English) DH says then either.

Clearly the (apparently common) error must have come from somewhere. I think that's probably more interesting to discuss than how stupid people who make it are.

VintagePerfumista · 03/12/2016 09:08

Thank god for Seneca. Flowers

I think we need some threads on the pros and cons of inductive versus deductive grammar teaching, or descriptive v prescriptive grammars.

PC needs to get back on track...

VintagePerfumista · 03/12/2016 09:11

Whether an accent is rhotic or not only comes into play when an R follows a vowel, btw, so not relevant here.

Lweji · 03/12/2016 09:15

Sorry, Seneca, are you complaining that people are making pedantic posts in Pedants Corner?

I think they mean that Pedants" corner is (should be) mostly to clarify difficult language issues not to rant about people making mistakes.

Also, it's Pedants" Corner.
And not "I can forgot", but I can forget or I can forgive.
HTH Smile

VintagePerfumista · 03/12/2016 09:19

I have issues with the overuse of (...)

...or the overuse of "like" to mean, well, anything the speaker wants it to. I always read their words in a thicko Catherine Tate Vicky Pollard voice...

...or the lack of punctuation, particularly missing capital letters at the beginning of sentences...or commas...capital letters on I...

..odd contractions that would get red penned even at primary school...

...random doubling of consonants at the end of words...

Muphry's Law will explain the above far better than I could. Wink

You're welcome.

Fluffy24 · 03/12/2016 09:22

totes emosh

It's the latest style of slipper-sock don't you know!!

VintagePerfumista · 03/12/2016 09:23

I say "totes hilaires" all the time.

Usually on threads like this. Which are anything but.

Fluffy24 · 03/12/2016 09:25

vintage the ideal novelty sock for Christmas!

DesolateWaist · 03/12/2016 09:40

Oh, sorry I thought it was somewhere to rant.
Where can I rant about that then? It's poor form to bring it up in a post and if you mention it in chat etc then people jump down your throat.
Is there a complaining corner?

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PineappleExpress · 03/12/2016 09:46

I've heard 'intensive purposes' used on so many (mostly American) TV shows and films lately. I can bite my tongue and ignore understand people hearing it as that, and then writing it that way, but surely a script should be thoroughly checked for these things.

MiladyThesaurus · 03/12/2016 10:30

Vintage: I was just trying to think of some reason why anyone would think brought and bought sounded the same, because they sound very different. It's like mixing up bed and bread.

I don't understand how so many people have come to imagine the brought is the past tense of buy, but there must be a reason for it.

PineappleExpress · 03/12/2016 10:46

Another one that has caught my attention watching TV and films is

"I could care less"

when it should clearly be 'couldn't'.

SenecaFalls · 03/12/2016 14:08

I've heard 'intensive purposes' used on so many (mostly American) TV shows and films lately.

No, you haven't. You are mishearing an accent.

And Bingo for "let's blame it on Americans."

Sorry, Seneca, are you complaining that people are making pedantic posts in Pedants Corner?

Traditionally, there has actually been a culture of kindness and helpfulness on Pedants' corner. It is a place where people can talk about things like this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pedants_corner/2790742-Robert-is-better-than-I-at-or-Robert-is-better-than-me-at

MiladyThesaurus · 03/12/2016 15:12

Pineapple: the North American idiom is 'I could care less'. It's correct within American English.

PineappleExpress · 03/12/2016 22:15

I'm not mishearing. I can tell the difference, and it's easy to rewind and check.
Blaming the Americans??
Blaming them for what exactly?
I said it because that is where I have heard it. I would have said mostly British, had it been mainly British shows.
Admittedly, not exactly a vital piece of information, but hardly an attack on Americans for destroying the English language Grin

Thanks for that, Milady. Hopefully, it won't bother me as much now, even though it doesn't always seem to make sense in context Smile

badtime · 05/12/2016 10:52

Seneca, to be fair, when someone posts something like this on AIBU, they are generally told to fuck off to Pedants' Corner.

I think there is room enough for both kinds of post. But then, I don't agree with this idea that being bothered by particular errors is anything to do with ideas of superiority or inferiority. I think for some people it is more like a lock of hair that keeps falling into their eyes, or a roughly broken nail that catches on things. It's not focused on the other person. It's just annoying.

For others, they genuinely want to help, but are faced with defensiveness and accusations when they try.

Furthermore, as someone noted above, some people genuinely might not know the correct word, and threads like this do explain what it is. Nobody is being nasty about the people who don't know that when you buy something, you have bought it, or that you don't keep your socks in a draw etc.

SenecaFalls · 05/12/2016 13:17

they are generally told to fuck off to Pedants' Corner.

Yes, they are told that but by people who don't post in PC. And unfortunately, now more of the superiority folks are taking their snark-fests over here.

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