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A hotel or an hotel?

41 replies

Melonrunner · 18/06/2016 19:55

My dd has been told at school to use 'a' if the next sound is a consonant or 'an' if the next sound is a vowel, with the exception of an hotel. I have never heard of this before but Google suggests this is a thing! It sounds awful when I say am hotel. Who is right me or the teaching assistant?

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ChorizoGnocchiPinotGrigio · 18/06/2016 19:57

Bit you pronounce "h" so it has to be an "a"!

RedWineLush · 18/06/2016 19:58

Well strangely, my mother who is in her sixties and vair well spoken, says 'an 'otel' which is apparently correct pronunciation. I don't say it though!

3luckystars · 18/06/2016 19:58

A

Redbindippers101 · 18/06/2016 19:59

It's A Notel.

WhizzPopper · 18/06/2016 19:59

I'd only use an if I was being lazy and said "an 'otel" normally it's a hotel though. I was taught a for a vowel and an for a consonant.

DropYourSword · 18/06/2016 20:00

I'm sure the correct way is 'an' for hotel. But I'd always actually say 'a'.

MariaSklodowska · 18/06/2016 20:00

The teaching assistant has maybe read 'Noblesse Oblige' which discusses class markers in speech, and divides English speakers into 'U' and 'non U'. Or she could just be quite posh.

Saying 'an hotel' with a silent H is a marker of upper class speech I believe.

It is not that important, say what you like, a hotel or an (h)otel. the latter does sound a bit silly doesn't it?

WhizzPopper · 18/06/2016 20:00

Oops sorry other way round!

FoxesOnSocks · 18/06/2016 20:00

Depends how you say hotel really. I use 'a' because I pronounced hotel with an obvious huh

Scarydinosaurs · 18/06/2016 20:01

Is this because it's a French word that shouldn't have the h pronounced? A bit like how Americans say 'erbs for herbs?

For what it's worth, I say a hotel.

Melonrunner · 18/06/2016 20:01

An 'otel sounds common to me!

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FoxesOnSocks · 18/06/2016 20:02

It's the sound rather than the actual letter that determines whether 'a' or 'an' is used.

WellErrr · 18/06/2016 20:03

'An hotel' with the 'h' silent is the correct pronunciation.

DianaMitford · 18/06/2016 20:03

It is definitely "an"

Floppityflop · 18/06/2016 20:03

An hotel. In French there are aspirated and non-aspirated h sounds. We nearly always aspirated even if the equivalent word in French would not be. Hotel is a French word and I assume that is why this "rule" applies. Oddly doesn't seem to apply to hostel.

Melonrunner · 18/06/2016 20:04

Yes foxes she has been taught it's the sound not the letter, with the exception of hotel which suggests the teaching assistant is pronouncing the 'h' I'm hotel.

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MariaSklodowska · 18/06/2016 20:04

wellErr there is no 'correct' or 'incorrect' here. I mean there is no national academy pronouncing what is right and what is wrong is there?

therefore people say what they like....

BeautifulMaudOHara · 18/06/2016 20:05

Both are correct IMO

WellErrr · 18/06/2016 20:09

wellErr there is no 'correct' or 'incorrect' here

There really is.

MariaSklodowska · 18/06/2016 20:11

" There really is."

no there really isn't .

If you think there is, refer us to the academy/organisation/government department that makes rules on language.

Oh yes there isn't one......

allegretto · 18/06/2016 20:11

Both are correct. An is a bit old fashioned imo.

CarlGrimesMissingEye · 18/06/2016 20:14

I was always tight to say 'an' before H words.

DropYourSword · 18/06/2016 20:15

What do you mean Maria? There are definitely correct and incorrect ways in language. People then are free to choose what they do.

BeautyQueenFromMars · 18/06/2016 20:16

It's 'an' if you don't stress the 'h', 'a' if you do stress the 'h'.

An 'otel
A Hotel

MariaSklodowska · 18/06/2016 20:17

it depends on the H word doesnt it? whether or not it is aspirated.

Therefore it would be 'an honest man' but as we do say hotel with an aspirated H these days, an otel does sound a bit wanky tbh.