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Americanisms

10 replies

skillsandtea · 13/10/2014 07:52

Gotten. Is that even a word? I'm reading Gone Girl at the moment and 'gotten' keeps coming up. I thought it was slang but now I see it in proper text. It's really grating me.

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Clayhead · 13/10/2014 07:54

It's an old word that we dropped and they kept, isn't it?

FriendlyLadybird · 13/10/2014 16:15

It's legitimate American English. Clayhead's right that it's a form of the verb that we stopped using and they didn't.

DunedinSunshine · 15/10/2014 08:47

"Forgotten" is used in British English, though, which has the same root word. We Yanks just kept the "ten" for both.

pockledigg · 22/10/2014 10:10

'Can I get a ? ' drives me mad, as in 'Can I get a coffee/vodka and tonic?' - don't even get me started on the 'vodka-tonic' craze...It's so tiring saying 'and'.
I feel that the correct response should be:
'No. Not until you learn to speak correctly.'
Bah!!!

SconeRhymesWithGone · 22/10/2014 17:58

The only thing that one can quibble with grammatically in "can I get" is the use of "can" rather than "may." The definition of "get" is "to come to have or hold (something); receive". So "can I get" is as correct as "can I have," although the pedant in me would prefer "may." "Get" does not have some sort of built-in reflexive as so many posters on MN seem to think.

pockledigg · 22/10/2014 19:23

'May I get?' is fine with me. 'Can I get?' is not. It's the 'Can' that grates.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 22/10/2014 20:15

Ok, then I agree, and sorry for misinterpreting. Smile

Superlovely · 22/10/2014 20:21

We love 'juice box' so much better than the English 'carton of juice'.
Unfortunately, I think starting every sentence with 'so' is sadly creeping in here.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 23/10/2014 09:04

Can I get= informal
Could I get= more formal
May/Might I get= very formal
Would you mind awfully if I got=very very formal

All perfectly OK. May/Might are falling out of use though, so "could" is really becoming the default "asking for something politely" verb.

badtime · 23/10/2014 15:19

I thought 'Can I get...?' was used in Scotland as well.

I tend to assume that a lot of supposed Americanisms are archaic or dialect usages that just don't feature in standard British English.

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