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Do you marinaDE or marinaTE?

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owlbegoingmerrily · 27/12/2013 20:03

Watching Gordon Ramsay cooking and he said 'when you marinaDE the chicken.'
I thought marinaDE was the substance and marinaTE was the act?

You'd think being a chef he'd know what he was talking about so am I wrong?

OP posts:
DontCallMeDaughter · 27/12/2013 20:05

I'm with you. I marinate with a marinade....

mermaidbutmytailfelloff · 27/12/2013 20:06

I am with you owl, you marinate with a marinade.

Well I do

LeMousquetaireAnonyme · 27/12/2013 20:06

I marinaDE because I am french and it is a french word, not sure if it is the english one though, but I suppose that chefs would use the french version IYSWIM.
Not so helpful after a pint or 2

catwithflowers · 27/12/2013 20:08

Ditto mermaid and Don'tcall.

I like his cooking but think he is a bit of an idiot. Give me Michel any day Smile

LeMousquetaireAnonyme · 27/12/2013 20:14

Oh! it is not a verb in french so I don't know why I would use it as a verb in english Confused

crabb · 27/12/2013 20:16

I'm with the majority here - I marinate my meat in a marinade.

lougle · 27/12/2013 20:19

Grammarist agrees with the majority:

Marinade is a liquid mixture (usually vinegar, oil, and herbs) in which meat is soaked before cooking. Marinate is the corresponding verb (i.e., to soak in marinade). The noun marinade has been mistakenly used in place of the verb marinate so often and for so long that many dictionaries now list marinade as a variant of marinate. Still, there is no reason not to keep the words separate.

DramaAlpaca · 27/12/2013 20:20

I also marinate in a marinade.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/12/2013 20:30

As far as I am aware, marinaDE is a noun, referring to the liquid used to marinaTE - the verb. Ergo, OP, you are right, and Gordon is wrong - just don't tell him I said so, please!

breatheslowly · 27/12/2013 20:35

This is with Gordon. Is there a US/UK difference?

badtime · 29/12/2013 21:32

Gordon is a pedant's nightmare. He says 'slither' when he means a small slice.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 31/12/2013 13:30

Is there a US/UK difference?

I don't think so. Most people I know (here in the States) observe the marinate/marinade distinction.

And the Oxford Dictionary has the secondary meaning of "marinade" as a verb for both UK and US usage.

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