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Less/Fewer, Amount/Number. Why do people misuse them all the time?

13 replies

Nanny0gg · 25/04/2012 22:28

It's not hard - one is used for countable items, the other isn't.

And if you use the wrong one it actually sounds wrong!

And the number of teachers who don't know the difference...

AAAaaaaaargggghh!

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HangingGarden · 26/04/2012 18:52

Oh I so agree!
But they're no better on the Beeb news so is there any hope?

Hebiegebies · 26/04/2012 18:58

Thank you for posting in the correct place, but isn't life too less/short/fewer? Grin

Nanny0gg · 27/04/2012 01:00

Life is never to short to get things write/wright/rite/ right

Grin
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MirandaGoshawk · 30/04/2012 11:43

I think it's because 'less' is just easier to say than 'fewer'. It's got one less fewer syllable. Not an excuse, jsut a likely reason.

Goes back to the old supermarket thing of 'five items or less'. Grr.

blackeyedsusan · 07/05/2012 01:08

Life is never too/to/two/2 short! Grin

The National Curriculum for mathematics uses one more and one less....

Iggly · 07/05/2012 01:17

I get them wrong because I don't know the rule. DH has since patronised me tried to explain and I can usually remember after a minute but it's so ingrained I get it wrong. Fewer sounds "posh" to me Grin

I went to a rubbish school that didn't teach grammar. I remember our English teacher panicking before our gcses trying to teach us Hmm

CointreauVersial · 07/05/2012 01:18

It's true, a less/fewer mistake absolutely jumps out at me. It's so obvious.

I've now trained DH, and even he spots them and shouts at the TV when people get it wrong.

CointreauVersial · 07/05/2012 01:23

Iggly, allow me:

You use "fewer" when there are countable/discrete items, such as people, hats, reasons etc.

You use "less" when it is a mass of something that cannot be separated into items, such as money, joy, gravy etc.

Remember the TV ad for razors: "Fewer strokes, less irritation." Correct - hooray!

Iggly · 07/05/2012 06:34

I get them wrong because I don't know the rule. DH has since patronised me tried to explain and I can usually remember after a minute but it's so ingrained I get it wrong. Fewer sounds "posh" to me Grin

I went to a rubbish school that didn't teach grammar. I remember our English teacher panicking before our gcses trying to teach us Hmm

Iggly · 07/05/2012 06:37

Whoops - what a delayed double post!

Fewer strokes, less irritation - yes that's a great way to remember thank you CointreauVersial. DH did explain the counting thing but I need a snappy way of remembering as that's how my brain works.

MothershipG · 07/05/2012 06:44

I can't ever remember which is which, I know the rule but then forget which way round it is and it doesn't just sound wrong to me. Blush

Please can one of you come up with a handy memory aid and I'll promise to teach it to everyone I know!

Nanny0gg · 07/05/2012 20:11

If you can count it, it's 'fewer', if you can't, it's less. Same with number (countable) and amount (not).
Fewer chairs, less furniture. Number of chairs, amount of furniture, works for me.

And the maths curriculum with one more/one less has driven me nuts for years!
Years I tell you!

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