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St. Lucia

14 replies

WinkyWinkola · 18/02/2011 18:35

Is it Loo-sha or Loo-chia or Loo-see-a?

I've always thought it to be the first but I've heard many different pronunciations over the last few days.

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Pterosaur · 18/02/2011 18:41

The Caribbean island is St Loosha.

ViolaTricolor · 18/02/2011 18:44

Since we're in Pedants' Corner, I can't resist mentioning that you don't need a point after 'St', because it's a contraction (like 'Dr').

WinkyWinkola · 18/02/2011 19:57

Seriously?

I always thought you needed a point after a contraction. Mr. X Xxxx, Dr. Yyyy, Mrs. Ppppp

Tell me more.. .. .. .. .. >

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ViolaTricolor · 18/02/2011 20:14

Whether you need a point depends on how an abbreviation is achieved. If the abbreviation is formed by removing the end of a word, you need a point. For example 'Professor' becomes 'Prof.'. Contractions are abbreviations formed by removing letters from the middle of the word, leaving the end intact. In those cases, you don't need a point. So 'Dr' does not take a point, because 'r' is the last letter of 'Doctor'. Likewise 'Mr' and 'Mrs' (as they come from 'Mister' and 'Mistress'). It's true though that points are used with contractions more frequently in American English.

Pterosaur · 18/02/2011 21:22

Conventions change. Many of us will have been taught to add the point to contractions at school, but I agree it's no longer the norm in Britain (or amongst British publishers, I suspect it's still pretty commonly used in unpublished writing).

winnybella · 18/02/2011 21:26

Viola is right, it doesn't make sense to add point to Dr as 'r' is the last letter of the word.

Pterosaur-really? I was taught in the 80s as per Viola's post

PaisleyLeaf · 18/02/2011 21:44

I'm pretty sure that (in the 70s) I was taught Mr. Dr. etc
We had Dr. Seuss books then.

ViolaTricolor · 19/02/2011 09:53

Dr. Seuss is a perfect example of the fact that points are used much more commonly in American English.

SnapFrakkleAndPop · 19/02/2011 10:01

Depends where you are in the world. All 3 are valid in different places and different languages but the island is typically Loo-sha.

Greythorne · 19/02/2011 10:12

I was def taught (early 80s) to add the full stop after Mr. and Mrs. I remember vividly because I also popped a point after Miss and was roundly mocked by my junior 3 teacher.

Greythorne · 19/02/2011 10:13

Oh, and I think it is Loo-sha for the island.

Rindercella · 19/02/2011 10:17

Loo-sha

Pterosaur · 19/02/2011 16:05

I was taught to add the point at school in the 70s and stopped abruptly in the 90s when I started working for a publisher which had adopted the pointless (as it were) contraction.

Spammead · 04/03/2011 19:21

Oooh! All this time I was tutting about Dr Pepper dropping the point.

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