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Pedants' corner

do you marry your husband?I think not but fear this is taking pedantry to new levels.

106 replies

hatwoman · 13/07/2010 13:24

"She married her husband." Surely this is wrong? But I think I have to let it go, don't I...sigh.

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NotQuiteCockney · 13/07/2010 13:53

Right, but I would say that 'my husband' is a way to identify him, not an identification of who he was then. It's a signifier now, not then, iyswim.

StealthPolarBear · 13/07/2010 13:54

i suppose "when we got married" would do

IndigoSky · 13/07/2010 13:54
MinnieMummy · 13/07/2010 13:56

This reminds me of a friend's wedding invitation that read 'You are invited to the marriage of X and Y'.

Er, I really hope not, the wedding fine, but your marriage is your own business...

Druzhok · 13/07/2010 13:56

He is now your husband therefore it is a perfectly acceptable pronoun to use!

You reference the present when you select your subject - the singular noun phrase 'My husband' - but are then free to reference whatever time frame you wish. It might be helpful to clarify it, of course.

StealthPolarBear · 13/07/2010 13:56

lol, did you see them doing the washing up, going on holiday & arguing in the car?

midnightexpress · 13/07/2010 13:57

Is there anything wrong with 'I married my now-husband'?

Or, alternatively: 'I married [insert your DH's name here]'.

IndigoSky · 13/07/2010 13:57

Lol @ Minnie and SPB

hatwoman · 13/07/2010 13:58

anyone heard of intentional and extensional meaning? intentionally "Fred" and "my husband" are not the same. the meanings of the words are different. extensionally they are. (well, they're not as dh isn't called Fred, but let's just assume)

(a clearer example is one without names - "the red ball" and "the ball on the shelf in the garage" are, very clearly, different words that intend to impart different things. They have different intentional meanings. However they refer, (extend), to the same object - they have the same extensional meaning.

that was one of teh few things I can remember from my philosophy degree...

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Druzhok · 13/07/2010 13:59

midnightexpress - well, no, except it's a bit clumsy and made up ... churlish

StealthPolarBear · 13/07/2010 13:59

yes

"The Queen" is a role not a person, even if everyone knows it refers to LizII

midnightexpress · 13/07/2010 13:59

Oh, and MinnieMummy, according to my Collins English Dictionary you can use 'wedding' and 'marriage' synonymously, so 'You are invited to the marriage of ...' is fine. Though I like the idea of witnessing the plates flying around the kitchen.

Druzhok · 13/07/2010 14:00

Anyone else want to get stoned and talk about this further, over a few packs of Frazzles? I'm sensing a kindred spirit in hatwoman, for a start.

StealthPolarBear · 13/07/2010 14:01

yes, definitely but I'll have undoctored brownies please

Poledra · 13/07/2010 14:01

Oooh, I like that, *hatwoman^. So, when he's being nice, 'my lovely husband' and at other times 'that dickhead over there' have different intentional meanings but the same extensional meaning, yes?

hatwoman · 13/07/2010 14:01

druzhuk perhaps there's reason I can't remember much else form my philosophy degree

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midnightexpress · 13/07/2010 14:02

I think getting stoned might make us all even more confused. I'd probably end up paranoid that I have in fact never wed or married DP.

Poledra · 13/07/2010 14:03

Midnightexpress, although you can use marriage to mean wedding, you can't really do it the other way round, can you? I eamn, I'd talk about my parents' long-lasting marriage, but, if I talked about their wedding, I'd only be referring to the day 45 years ago when they made their vows.

ViveLaFrak · 13/07/2010 14:03

I agree you can use wedding and marriage interchangeably. Ah the joys of a language with many different origins....

midnightexpress - that would imply you had a previous husband knocking around somewhere. Your now-husband as opposed to your then-husband!

Druzhok · 13/07/2010 14:04
Grin
Poledra · 13/07/2010 14:04

And that's not a sarcastic , by the way, it's a questioning

ViveLaFrak · 13/07/2010 14:04

To describe the action of marrying/wedding I mean.

midnightexpress · 13/07/2010 14:05

Oh yes, sorry, they aren't proper synonyms.

NoahAndTheWhale · 13/07/2010 14:05

If he is DP then surely you haven't married him.

I did instantly appreciate the point hatwoman was making btw.

Poledra · 13/07/2010 14:06

Of course you did, Noah, we believe you