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Whether you're planning a birthday or a hen do, you'll find plenty of ideas for your celebration on our Party forum.

Shirley's party advice thread part 2

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stealthsquiggle · 14/12/2011 09:16

...can I take the liberty of starting another thread, since the other one filled up?

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stealthsquiggle · 09/02/2012 23:53

MrsKitty - sit and wrap pass the parcel in front of the TV, the sooner the better (I realise not many evenings left). As long as you make it fairly foolproof (e.g count out the right number of whatever you are putting in layers so that you don't lose count) then it is fairly mindless as long as there are no DC involved Grin

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silver28 · 10/02/2012 10:32

Hi ladies, I have just finished reading all of the messages on this thread and the previous one: 1,527 in total (seems quite sad now i've written that down, but in my defence I have a 7 week old DD so I spend an awful lot of time BFing and MNing). As a result I feel like I know you Blush which definitely is sad but hey ho.

Anyway, I am currently planning DS's 4th birthday party, which isn't 'til April but I've been inspired by this thread and can't stop myself now.

Like many others I we have chosen a knights theme as there seems to be plenty of ideas for games etc, I feel fairly confident about making a castle cake (tho I have some questions...) and DS is mad keen on knights/dragons/swords.

I am on my phone at the mo so will post properly when on the computer as don't trust my fat fingers to type a long coherent post, but just wanted to mark my place and also say big congratulations to DW on the birth of your baby girl, and also hello to mrskitty as I think we 'met' on another long running thread a few months back and we seemed to have lots of similarities and I PROMISE I'm not stalking you and of course if you don't remember me then I'll sidle back into the corner whistling nonchalantly

stealthsquiggle · 10/02/2012 11:26

Hello, Silver - welcome!

Castle cake is perfect for 4th birthday - 4 towers, 4 candles, sorted - and most 4yos can be persuaded to be either knights (of either gender) or princesses (or princes, naturally..)

bring on the questions Grin

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Blatherskite · 10/02/2012 11:58

Hi Silver. Shock at reading 2 whole threads of us wittering about parties! but well done and welcome.

I noticed Yellow Moon (and therefore probably Baker Ross too) had cardboard 'design your own' swords which would be great for a Knights party. I've got a free delivery code for Baker Ross but it only works if you spend over £35.

Stealth is definitely your lady for Knights parties. I want to do one just so I can use her baby dragons in the party bags idea! Oh and buy one of these for the children to decorate and play in. I think DS might be a little too old by next year though so I'm hoping I can sell it too DD as a Knight's and Princesses party at some point :)

MrsKitty · 11/02/2012 09:25

Hi Silver-yes, I remember you!

Finally finished the castle cake at bang on midnight last night! It may be 'easy', but its certainly not quick! Looks fab though (if I do say so myself), am very pleased. Will pop a photo up if I can figure out how.

Party is in 5 hours so I'm off now to make vast amounts of sandwiches and wrap stuff. Pass the parcel has taken a nosedive so I'm going to do lucky dip prizes for games instead... unless today suddenly gets a few hours longer

Blatherskite · 11/02/2012 09:37

Good luck for today Kitty. I'm sure you'll all have a great time :)

stealthsquiggle · 11/02/2012 13:04

Good luck Kitty - have fun!

I agree about the cakes - even with 9 years of practice it still takes me way longer than the books reckon it should.

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3duracellbunnies · 12/02/2012 07:09

Ok folks, I need some advice on timing for dd2 party. We had the first of our fairy parties yesterday, dd1's 7th. She had 3 yr 2 girls, plus dd2. The party went really well, so well that we had to ring parents to extend party from 3 to 4hrs! One thing which took much longer was decorating fairy houses. I estimated 15 mins, they spent 45 mins, and they looked really good.

Now we are doing fairy/ dinosaur houses for dd2 - 14 yR girls 4 yR boys, she reliably informs me that there are lots of dinosaurs in fairyland still (only nice ones though). These will be their party bags, along with small cellophane cone of fairy sweets, fairy snow dust and pipecleaner fairy/ dinosaur, cake.

Obviously being their party bag I don't want them to massively rush it (and dd2 was the last to put finishing touches on) but at the same time the fairy houses may receive more attention than the dinosaurs. There are some bits which there are just one of so I was thinking of doing craft in middle of party so the early birds don't have a garden full of fimo mushrooms and the poor kid who is 10 min late gets a twig and a feather. Now I am wondering if I should do it at begining and have a mini bag of special bits each, plus some more general stuff which we have lots of (twigs, shells etc). Any ideas which would work better?

What games can we do with them as they finish which will occupy those who finish early without being so exciting that those who want to add lots of details feel that they have to finish quickly?

stealthsquiggle · 13/02/2012 09:29

duracellbunnies - challenging one. Attention spans for doing "crafty" stuff at that age seems to vary from 30 seconds to several hours.

I think indivudual "kits" (and encouraging some swapping?) is probably the best way to ensure fair division of stuff, but I am coming up blank on what you can do with the early finishers, as they probably consider themselves too old for colouring, etc (although maybe a giant wordsearch or some sort of communal colouring thing might work??)

I will think about it...

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silver28 · 14/02/2012 16:03

I've finally managed to get onto the computer (rarely use it as tend to MN on my phone, but i hate writing long posts on my phone as they tend to be riddled with typos).

Thanks for the welcomes. I've already picked up some tips from this and the previous thread. i've never done a proper party before but do enjoy entertaining and baking and have plenty of time on my hands as am on maternity leave at the mo (hurrah!).

DS will be 4 and i'm planning to invite about 12 or so children. most will be about 4 but there will be a couple of 2.5yo and a couple nearly 6yo. Plan is to have the party at home as long as the weather is ok, as the garden is a decent size and we have a large (and tidy!) garage and a conservatory which could all be used. Not so keen on the thought of so many small children in the house if the weather is crappy, so might try to book the village hall or if possible just see if i can reserve it and decide whether to use it much nearer the time. it only costs £9 ph to hire so not a big problem to book at and then not use it if the weather's nice.

I haven't put too much thought into the activities yet. i think that if we end up indoors we'll want more party games, but if we can be outside they'll be happy to run around the garden and go on bikes and ride-ons etc (based on what i've seen at similar parties).

My thoughts so far (in no particular order!) are:

  • a few party games (pass the parcel, musical bumps, maybe one other)
  • a craft activity - am thinking of getting some of those shields from baker ross that they can decorate. Does anyone know if crayola washable pens would work on them? would also get some stickers etc for decorating them.
  • DS is getting a trampoline for his birthday (a fews days before the party) so that will be in the garden too, plus bikes and ride on tractors etc (not consistent with the knight them, but i don't suppose 4 year olds will care!)
  • My sister is trying to persuade me to hire a bouncy castle as she did last year and i know they are a big hit and it would be quite 'knightly', but am a bit worried that if someone gets injured i might get sued (silly i know, i might look into it further)
  • after they've had a party tea i plan to give them either foam or inflatable swords (anyone know which would work better?) to use to bash a dragon pinata, and also to do some sort of relay race (blatantly copied from some of the ideas suggested by Stealth on this thread)

Re the cake, i'm planning to make a castle using either a 10 or 12 inch square base. Stealth - you posted a recipe for a chocolate cake back in november and said you could provide quantities for scaling up if needed - please could you let me have this when you have a moment? (also if you have the cooking time for the scaled up recipe if you have it?). Thanks in anticipation.

I was planning to put a candle on each turret as has been suggested and wondered if it's possible to buy flag shaped candles. have googled and only come up with union jack ones, whereas i wanted triangular ones if poss. i don't suppose anyone knows of anywhere that might sell these?

I'm planning to cover the cake in pale chocolate buttercream i think, with windows and other detail made from icing and stuck on. do you think this would ok or a bit crappy? alternative is to cover in fondant icing (i just struggle with making square cakes look neat) or alternatively do something similar to Stealth's brilliant castle cake with stone effect walls.

Anyway, this post is far too long already so i'll stop now but i think i may have more questions once i've given it all some more thought!

silver28 · 14/02/2012 16:17

Bloody hell, just viewed this post on my phone and realised how long it is! Sorry Blush

I don't think I made it clear either, but if anyone has any comments on my plans or any suggestions then these would be gratefully received! At this stage nothing is set in stone, i've just been trying to gather some ideas (10 weeks in advance Grin)

stealthsquiggle · 14/02/2012 16:50

Silver - random thoughts:

swords - go with whichever you can find, TBH - I can't remember finding any foam ones, although I have since seen lots of nice ones. Inflatable ones came from ebay.

Bouncy Castle - I would go for it, and enjoy it while it lasts. For DS's yeargroup, it seemed to be at about age 6-7 that they went from happily bouncing into and off each other on bouncy castles to clashing heads/teeth/elbows and people getting hurt.

What else? Cake scaling I will look up - the stone effect it very forgiving (unlike trying to make smooth fondant look properly smooth and flat)

Candles - how about these?

Crayola washables do work on Baker Ross stuff, but the colours don't come out massively strong - more popular if supplemented with a big tub of foam stickers (Hobbycraft).

What else? I lost count.... Grin

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silver28 · 14/02/2012 17:05

Thanks, that was a quick response! Am now typing left handed will BFing so will keep it brief (ish):

Swords - have seen both on eBay and think I could get foam ones from pound land or similar.
Bouncy castle - might just go for it.
Candles - I love those but will be putting model knights and dragon on the castle so prefer not to have character candles. Might just use normal candles, I'm sure they'd be fine.
I think a trip to hobbycraft is in order, tho am in love with baker Ross site now (I'd never heard of it before reading this thread).

I have many more questions in my head, and will have even more when I get down to the finer details, but don't want to get too carried away too soon!

3duracellbunnies · 14/02/2012 17:07

Thanks stealthsquiggle, I will try to find some inexpensive bags to bag stuff up. Think we will do picture consequencies for those who finish early, so not too exciting. Dd says one of the boys is v good at craft, but another boy does 'absolutely no details at all' (picture nearly 5yr old eyes rolling). Any ideas on whether to do it at begining or in the middle?

silver, we got foam swords from 99p store just before christmas.

silver28 · 14/02/2012 17:08

One question re icing, what is the diff between fondant, sugar paste and gum paste? And which is best for modelling?

And if I was to make a castle cake like yours Stealth, is it tricky to make the towers stand upright? I have visions of them falling over if I try it!

silver28 · 14/02/2012 17:09

Thanks Duracell Grin

stealthsquiggle · 14/02/2012 17:20

fondant = stuff that is sold as rollout icing (regalice is a good brand to look for)
sugar paste = same, AFAIK. Books sometimes refer to "modelling paste" which is the same stuff with sugarcell (powder stuff) kneaded in to make it more flexible and easier to make thinner/more self supporting things out of (I add sugarcel when making animals, people, etc)

gum paste = stuff that you make sugar flowers and the like out of. essential for anything paper-thin or properly self-supporting. Takes forever to dry but is then super-strong - details like the tools on my baking cake, clothes on any figures, the steering wheel and sail on the pirate ship, etc made from this. Can be bought (ready mixed or as powder) in sugarcraft shops, online, or at Hobbycraft.

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silver28 · 14/02/2012 18:47

Thanks for the explanation. I have used fondant icing in the past, usually bought but I made my own at Xmas and it was fine. I haven't find anything v detailed with it before, though I now have some craft knives which would make it easier to model I suppose. I could try adding sugarcel - please could you let me know where I can buy this?

I don't think I'll need to use gum paste as doubt I'll be doing anything that intricate this time.

I haven't much experience in icing cakes, but have had some success with icing biscuits (ripping off the biscuiteers style) so hope I'll manage ok.

stealthsquiggle · 14/02/2012 19:14

sugarcel - probably available slightly cheaper elsewhere, but not hugely.

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MrsKitty · 14/02/2012 20:27

Silver, I made the same cake as stealth last week, turned out really well. I cheated a bit though, and because I made it twice the size (and couldn't be arsed) I covered the back, top and sides with a sheet of grey fondant, rolled the rear two towers in a sheet of fondant and just did stonework on the front wall and front two turrets. I also did a small amount of stonework on the joins around the sides to cover up the scrappy bits where the sheet icing finished. Will post photo when i can. I used Madeira cake (google best Madeira recipe and it'll take you to Lindys Cakes - still not figured out how to link on phone, sorry!) It's foolproof, and delicious! I did one lemon maderia, and one choc (replaced 3 tbsp flour with cocoa). There's also a good scaling up page on that site too.

Will post more tomorrow- on train so worried will lose my post!

silver28 · 14/02/2012 22:11

Brilliant, thanks for the advice. Look forward to seeing your pictures mrskitty. I hope the party went well?

ManyMomentsOfMadness · 14/02/2012 23:17

Hi All Grin I have been lurking for a while Blush trying to get ideas for DS 4th birthday party. I have hired a hall and bouncy castle and no real theme as such but found some fireman sam hats that I know he will love, just need to find something similar for girls...

Thanks to this thread I have found Baker Ross website....Blatherskite you mentioned a code for free delivery - could I possibly have that?? Thanks

ManyMomentsOfMadness · 14/02/2012 23:24

Blatherskite don't worry I have just realised I only have a couple of £s to spend to get free delivery anyway, oops Blush Blush

silver28 · 15/02/2012 03:06

Just realised the castle cake is from 50 Easy Party Cakes which just happened to be sat in my Amazon shopping basket, so I have just bought it and can't wait for it to arrive Grin !!

Blatherskite · 16/02/2012 21:41

I've put that book on my Amazon wishlist for my birthday :)

Party planning has been put on hold while I have tonsillitis again! but at least I've done most of it already so no need to panic Grin

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