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Estrangements?

44 replies

somuchmissing · 01/12/2025 13:18

Have NC as I want to protect my DC’s privacy.
This is long, I have tried to break it down so it makes sense.
If this reads as though I am a wet blanket, or too soft, I am not. I’m a Mum, I have always done my best.

DC is estranged from me.
They were messaging me and seeing me days before, just chatty messages about a hobby we share. I had seen them the weekend before that and it was a good visit.

Then suddenly, a few days later they stopped speaking to me altogether.
That was in 2022, they were 23 then.

Until the estrangement we were very close, they chose to do things and spend time with me of their own volition.
Then nothing, silence.

I never abused them, I did not smack them as a child.
As a an older child they often told me how “chilled” I am, though I was never a push over.

I have been over everything in my head so many times. What did I do? What did I say? What could I have done differently?
I’m not pretending to be perfect, I never would, but I genuinely do not know what I did to cause an outcome this extreme.

Some things that come to mind.
Their father cut contact with them when this DC was 11, he met a woman with lots of money and wanted to impress her. A preteen did not fit with that image.
We had split when DC was 6. I tried to leave sooner but there was no space in a refuge, I had no support and my earnings were low because I was making up time, money and climbing back up the career ladder after maternity leave.
Ex H was very abusive towards me, including emotionally. One of his ways of exercising control? To not speak to me in order to make me get back in line (his words).

He frequently told DC that the split was my fault and encouraged DC to physically hurt me, which they did. I can admit that DC injured me quite badly a few times.
On seeing my injuries my boss intervened and insisted I go to hospital.
My GP arranged for DC to have counselling.
The paediatric psychologist spoke with me and ex H separately before seeing DC.
Ex H was so abusive to the psychologist that they refused to ever be alone with him again.

I have never spoken to DC about the injuries, or that time, though I did often ask how they were, whether they were ok, what could I do to make life better?

I have never held the physical violence against DC, they were a child being manipulated. It was not DC’s fault.
Our local Police supported DC seeing their father only with supervision.
Unfortunately Ex H manipulated the Social Worker he can be very charming and he is very good looking as a result, Social Services did not support supervised contact.

DC estranged her partner’s parents too.
Just before and throughout Covid DC decided that they would not speak to them.
When I asked my DC why they were not speaking to them, DC’s reason for it was that the partner’s parents had been “getting on my tits a bit”.
My DC simultaneously put pressure on their partner not to speak to the parents either.
The partner acquiesced, largely to keep the peace, as DC had exploded with rage when the partner (their child) sent their Mum a birthday card.

Outside of all of this my DC is heavily influenced by friends, peers and social media.
I always got on well with DC’s friends and their (now ex) partner.

There is a large movement on social media towards DC going NC with parents, I see this all the time in my profession.
Sometimes NC is absolutely the right thing to do, especially if the parents are abusive.
Assuming, as in our case, the parents are not abusive I wonder whether NC is always the right thing?
People are complicated, families can be tricky. Taking space can be a good thing, but NC is final and heartbreaking.

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reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 01/12/2025 19:59

Headyhead · 01/12/2025 19:54

No

6-9 when they were attacking the op

I get that and then they went on to further abusive behaviours - ie trying to control who their partner does or doesn’t talk to, parents included. Even as a child beating, biting, scalding are all very extreme behaviours. I still think they’re just imitating their abusive father (and if they’re anything like my brother was, they’d idolise the father who was in fact the abuser).

Going NC can be very helpful (I was NC with my father for many years and don’t regret it, currently NC with my brother with no plans to change it) but it can also be a tool for abuse or to enable abusive behaviours. The mother doesn’t know where the NC is coming from, so how different is it really from giving someone the silent treatment, which is a pretty horrendous thing to do?

RosaMundi27 · 01/12/2025 20:12

Probably not what you want to hear but - it might be for the best. Your child is clearly a very disturbed person and I don't believe that any amount of parental encouragement could make a child so violent to the other parent. You kid has serious problems and until they get help and recognise this, you are safer being NC.
Try to get on with the rest of your life and resist the urge to make contact, for your own sake.

Headyhead · 02/12/2025 06:41

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 01/12/2025 19:59

I get that and then they went on to further abusive behaviours - ie trying to control who their partner does or doesn’t talk to, parents included. Even as a child beating, biting, scalding are all very extreme behaviours. I still think they’re just imitating their abusive father (and if they’re anything like my brother was, they’d idolise the father who was in fact the abuser).

Going NC can be very helpful (I was NC with my father for many years and don’t regret it, currently NC with my brother with no plans to change it) but it can also be a tool for abuse or to enable abusive behaviours. The mother doesn’t know where the NC is coming from, so how different is it really from giving someone the silent treatment, which is a pretty horrendous thing to do?

I think this man had a truly horrific childhood that has impacted him at a very fundamental level because it’s all he’s known since birth.

NC is in his interests
NC is in the OP’s interests

The ship has sailed for any kind of positive relationship between the OP and her DS

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 02/12/2025 09:40

Headyhead · 02/12/2025 06:41

I think this man had a truly horrific childhood that has impacted him at a very fundamental level because it’s all he’s known since birth.

NC is in his interests
NC is in the OP’s interests

The ship has sailed for any kind of positive relationship between the OP and her DS

I disagree. My father and I resumed contact in my mid 20s and we’re chilling. We’ll never be close, of course, certainly not the way I am with my mother (who is far from perfect too) but we have an okay relationship and he’s an excellent grandfather. Far better than he was a father.

@somuchmissing good luck and take care of yourself.

Stillpresent · 02/12/2025 14:24

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 02/12/2025 09:40

I disagree. My father and I resumed contact in my mid 20s and we’re chilling. We’ll never be close, of course, certainly not the way I am with my mother (who is far from perfect too) but we have an okay relationship and he’s an excellent grandfather. Far better than he was a father.

@somuchmissing good luck and take care of yourself.

Did you have an absolute horror of a childhood from the start and throughout?

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 02/12/2025 15:11

Stillpresent · 02/12/2025 14:24

Did you have an absolute horror of a childhood from the start and throughout?

Not that it’s any of your business or a competition, but yes I did. I have no memory of my parents getting along, as apparently according to both versions it got worse after I was born (I’m the youngest).

A child attacking their mother due to DV is quite unusual. One of my friends had a even worse home life than me (her mother had constant broken ribs, a broken arm, black eyes that I can remember) and neither her or her brother attacked their mother either. It’s just very unusual. The only people I know who attacked their parents were either spoiled rotten and on drugs (teen years and above).

MN has form for excusing all sorts of behaviour so I’m not surprised. OP’s child is entitled to go NC with whoever they want, it doesn’t automatically mean it’s a fair decision, but it is what is. We all react in different ways.

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BruFord · 02/12/2025 15:22

So your adult child is NC with you and has also pressured his/her partner to go NC with their parents too?

I hope that this couple isn’t completely isolated now. Do you keep in touch with the partner’s parents?

somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 15:25

@reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson I’m sorry you had a terrible time.

No idea what happened with stillpresent but it’s probably for the best I don’t know about it.

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somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 15:25

@reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson I’m sorry you had a terrible time.

No idea what happened with stillpresent but it’s probably for the best I don’t know about it.

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somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 15:28

@BruFord yes that’s about it.
I’ve never had much of a relationship with the partner’s parents, I just don’t know them well, so I don’t know what the current situation is with the other parents.

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BruFord · 02/12/2025 15:43

I just wondered whether anyone you know (other family members, old friends) is still in touch with your child and their partner.
At least they could reassure you that your child is ok, iyswim.

If they’re not in touch with anyone at all, perhaps a welfare check would be a good idea? I have no experience of welfare checks though, it may not be appropriate in this instance.

somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 18:47

@BruFord in case DC comes across this thread I’m not going to be too specific, but…
Neither of my parents are alive and my sibling lives in another, non European, country.
None of my extended family are geographically, or emotionally close.
However I do know how DC is, where they live and what they are doing. I have not broken the law to find out this information.

In writing all of this I am aware that people will probably come along and accuse me of spying on DC. I can assure you I have not.
We live in a sparsely populated area, anyone you speak to will not be six degrees of separation from another person, it will be two degrees at most.
As they only live 4 miles away, it must be a genuine challenge for DC to be avoid me.

OP posts:
BruFord · 02/12/2025 18:59

@somuchmissing Well that’s something, at least you know they’re OK.

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 02/12/2025 19:23

somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 15:25

@reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson I’m sorry you had a terrible time.

No idea what happened with stillpresent but it’s probably for the best I don’t know about it.

Thank you - I was going to reply to that other poster explaining that I did grow up in a DV situation (I was just trying not to get into the ugly details) but I think their replies were deleted! Maybe because they were being so… helpful 😒

somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 21:07

@reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson oh no.
I’m so sorry, I hate posters who want to challenge you on trauma you have experienced.
Well the abuse can’t have been that bad, you seem to be fine now etc, etc.

Please don’t feel you have to prove anything to some trolling rando.

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Leopardsandcheetahsarefast · 13/12/2025 10:30

Sillysoggyspaniel · 01/12/2025 13:26

She sounds like a controlling, violent and generally not nice person. I think that is probably at the root of it. So sorry you're going through this.

This.

I am estranged from my abusive parents.

I know it is traumatic a wound that never heals.

Do you have a new partner? A dog? Supportive friends?

is there anyone locally can could do with help or support?

Leopardsandcheetahsarefast · 13/12/2025 10:42

somuchmissing · 02/12/2025 18:47

@BruFord in case DC comes across this thread I’m not going to be too specific, but…
Neither of my parents are alive and my sibling lives in another, non European, country.
None of my extended family are geographically, or emotionally close.
However I do know how DC is, where they live and what they are doing. I have not broken the law to find out this information.

In writing all of this I am aware that people will probably come along and accuse me of spying on DC. I can assure you I have not.
We live in a sparsely populated area, anyone you speak to will not be six degrees of separation from another person, it will be two degrees at most.
As they only live 4 miles away, it must be a genuine challenge for DC to be avoid me.

As I’ve already said mine is the opposite my parents are the abusive ones and stopped talking to me.

You ex H is certainly abusive but could also have a mental illness. I long went over and over the abusive parents I had and if they are mentally unwell - the reality is it isn’t relevant abuse is abuse.

Your daughter could have been affected by your ex, mentally unwell, or indeed an abuser herself. She sounds horrific. Do not reach out - I did a number of times and was ignored or rejected each time. Each rejection was a new grief.

My parents live 0.5 miles away I have bumped into them 3 times in 5 years. Not as easy as you might think. I don’t avoid them.

Do you like the area? Could you completely relocate? In my case I love the area/ so I won’t!!

Are they in contact with other family? Or vice versa?

make sure you rewrite your will.

I’m sure you know this but this isn’t love and as much as you loved them you need to keep yourself safe from all forms of abuse

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