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23 year old son unmotivated to change..

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Josie1968 · 22/02/2021 00:54

Hi there

My son left school at 18, spent some time travelling with his g/f, and did a bit of waiting on in a local pub. He started uni but dropped out. He’s never been very academic but he didn’t know what else to do.. he then got an apprenticeship and has done that for about 2 years now but hates it. He says he wants to leave but doesn’t do anything to change things. I show him jobs if I see things that might be suitable.. sometimes he applies but I usually have to sit with him to help him with what to put. He never knows how to word letters or emails etc. He’s dyslexic but I know other dyslexic people who are able in that way .. although I know it can affect people in different ways. He’s also had anxiety and depression on and off since the age of 15 / 16. My husband and I have always supported him, encouraged him, always there to talk to and offer advice if needed.

I’ve suggested volunteering to gain experience in another field and to enable him to get a part time job and give him some thinking space as currently he’s up at 530am and doesn’t get home until 6pm. So.. long days especially when he hates his job! Today I sat and went through some volunteering options with him, but everything was ‘boring’ according to him. It made me feel really down to be honest. He’s miserable but won’t consider other options. He’s applied for a couple of shop jobs and one in a garden centre. (His apprenticeship is joinery).

He is a drummer and has been in bands since the age of 13 and always says he wants to be a drummer or a job to do with music. But realistically how likely is that? I don’t want to crush his dreams but I’ve said even people in bands who have ‘made it’ have had to work too! I’m started to feel a bit fed up to be honest and can just see him wasting his life by his complete lack of motivation or desire to change things. He’s having CBT sessions at the moment but seems half hearted about that too.

Anyone else in a similar position..?xx

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Josie1968 · 24/02/2021 22:37

@TheLaughingGenome no he doesn’t get up at 530am for a hobby, he’s really never been a morning person! So he gets up at 530am as he starts work at 7am and finishes at 530pm.. I’ve a feeling he gets a 30 minute lunch break, not an hour. And yes, £7.77 per hour.

It’s rubbish for the young ones at the moment, I agree. Sad

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LimitIsUp · 24/02/2021 23:32

@tofuschnitzel

It may be that CBT isn't the right fit for him, and that another therapy would be more beneficial. Is the CBT through the NHS? The NHS seem to think CBT is the answer to all mental health issues, which really isn't the case at all. Counselling may be an option, many private counsellors offer a sliding scale for fees.

I would encourage your son to finish the extra year on his apprenticeship. However, if he really doesn't want to stay that long, would working as a joiner for another company be an option?

CBT is just about the best therapy for social anxiety as it happens
LimitIsUp · 24/02/2021 23:39

I haven't got a great deal of advice OP but I do understand some of the issue - my 18 year old dd has dyslexia and social anxiety. The social anxiety holds her back from trying new things too - she can't leave her (rather limited) comfort zone. She also left Uni (in her first term), largely because living away from home was causing a huge escalation in her anxiety.

How long has your son been having CBT? My dd has had 3 sessions so far and feels that it is helping her. Prior to this she had two different counsellors (not CBT) - both well qualified, but breathing exercises, body scans and 'listening' only go so farHmm. Dd feels that CBT is giving her a toolkit to manage some of her issues

Josie1968 · 27/02/2021 06:54

@LimitIsUp my son has been having cbt for a few weeks now. I’m encouraging him to complete the course because he has started a couple of times in the past but then disengages which is frustrating. I’m pleased your daughter is finding it helpful. My son won’t have counselling unfortunately as I do think it would be helpful. I persuaded him to try hypnotherapy about a year ago which he’s always said no to, but he was so desperate at the time he tried it. But he had one session and absolutely hated it but wouldn’t elaborate. I’ve bought lots of self help books over the years and just recently he’s begun to read them and does say they are helpful. Good luck.. it’s hard to see our young people struggling.

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LimitIsUp · 27/02/2021 12:07

It must be difficult Josie when he is resistant to formal help - but its good that he is reading through the self help books, that's a start at least.

tofuschnitzel · 27/02/2021 12:46

@LimitIsUp CBT is just about the best therapy for social anxiety as it happens

Yes, but it doesn't work for everyone, which is why I suggested to the OP that her son may benefit more from other types of therapy. CBT isn't the only option.

billybagpuss · 27/02/2021 15:11

The fact that he has started reading them is good, it can take up to age 25 for the teenage brain to finish re-wiring so hopefully you’re on the home straight

Josie1968 · 27/02/2021 15:53

@billybagpuss that’s interesting I didn’t know that. I hope so 🤞

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