What factor sun cream?

[slushy06]

Which factor suncream for ds age 4 I have a bought a 50 for the baby and a 30. He is very pale skin fair hair 30 or 50?

i found this interesting reading earlier, re eco suncreams. (you need to scroll down a bit)

have bought one of the ones they suggest, it's a factor 30, and i would normally smother them in factor 50, so feeling a bit nervous lol, but what they say makes a lot of sense.

the best method of course is to keep them covered up, esp over midday...

Found this on the Australian Government website:
tga.gov.au/npmeds/sunscreen-zotd.htm
It talks about them 'dangerous chemicals' and how they aren't really dangerous at all because they don't reach viable skin cells and remain on the surface - protecting you from the suns harmful rays.
I have yet to find any evidence that sunscreen in Australia is only up to Factor 30, so far all evidence points to my favourite brand Sunsense being both popular and factor 50/60 readily available in Australia.
All I can add is that I sail, and the suns rays get you twice from the sky and bouncing off the water and there is no shade on a boat. I would never set sail with factor 30, even in the UK.

Right, its wikipedia so its unconfirmed but...
Australia's advertising was limited to 30+ (until next year when 50+ is hitting the Aus. markets) and EU's is limited to 50+, not because thats as high as it goes but because people don't understand how to calculate the effectiveness of sunscreen and then multiply incorrectly their sun exposure (5minutes the time I will burn if unprotected * Factor 10 = I can stay exposed in the shaded sun, not baking for 50 minutes per day, no matter haw many times I reapply). Australian government remain concerned that people will calculate incorrectly with the new 50+ labels.
There is concern that people (the great unwashed like me)

• do not apply correctly the appropriate amount initially
• and don't reapply either 15 minutes after initially applying or 2/3 hours after initially applying depending on your brand (did you know that?),
• or how it affected by activities such as swimming
• or that the calculation is per day of shaded/ activity exposure not sun baking, regardless of how frequently it is reapplied (I don't know how that works)

Therefore, in order to help people calculate correctly laws limit labelling. In both cases the actual SPF factor is 60+ I'm sticking with Sunsense.

I burn with factor 30, but not with factor 50. I am pretty pale though. It depends heavily on your skin type, but always better to go slightly higher than needed.

Factor 50+ all the way, basically you need to block the sun and not just filter out some of the rays, which is all the lower factor ones do.

Am currently using Ambre Solaire kids hypo-allergenic (am testing out various ones as DD seems to come up in a rash with some of them).

I cant use any suncream (well havent found 1 i can use) as i end up badly burnt with blisters and sunstroke to add to it. If i go out without suncream i go brown. I seem to have a bad reaction to any i have tried. My dd on the other hand gets factor 30 lathered on and she seems fine with it

I was a full on nothing below factor 50 mum (for me and the littl'un), but i've just come back from a hot and sunny week in Mallorca where my in-laws were all raving about Proderm Sun Mousse (my father in law is a distributor for it). The packaging says its factor 30 but there is only about a 1% difference in the actual protection of a factor 30 and a factor 50. And its a mousse that goes on so quick and easy my little boy was fully smothered before he knew what had hit him! and it lasts for AGES! I'm a convert now. Think Boots stock it

I was a full on nothing below factor 50 mum (for me and the littl'un), but i've just come back from a hot and sunny week in Mallorca where my in-laws were all raving about Proderm Sun Mousse (my father in law is a distributor for it). The packaging says its factor 30 but there is only about a 1% difference in the actual protection of a factor 30 and a factor 50. And its a mousse that goes on so quick and easy my little boy was fully smothered before he knew what had hit him! and it lasts for AGES! I'm a convert now. Think Boots stock it