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I've fallen into a black hole today

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hobnob57 · 14/05/2010 20:23

I'm really struggling with my DDs at the moment, aged 3.5 and 6mths. And I think I probably know the answers, but I just need to talk to someone non-judgey about it.

DD1 is a vivacious chatterbox. PFB and PFgrandchild on both sides. She has excellent vocab and understanding and never really went through the terrible twos because we could all communicate effectively enough to head things off. But since the end of my pregnancy with DD2 when I had to start weaning her off 100% one-to-one attention she has become more and more difficult to handle. A lot of this is to do with DD2 having horrid reflux and food intolerance issues which mean that I spend most of the day either feeding her, trying to get her to sleep (which she rarely does) or trying to soothe her crying/holding her. So DD1 has had to learn pretty quickly to be more self-reliant and to amuse herself more often. Nursery has been brilliant in that it has given her the push she needed to begin going to the toilet by herself and to try harder at dressing herself, etc. but she still demands help when she's feeling insecure, and constantly fills the airspace with questions and requests which I can't fulfil.

DH has always had a shorter fuse than me, and since sleep deprivation began with the arrival of DD2, DD1 got exposed to tellings off and straightforward demands rather than carefully crafted requests, and irritated rants more often. And then I started falling into the same pattern. And to my horror I just can't get out of it. It's like I've forgotten how to deal rationally with things when I have more demands on me. And the demands are constant, so DD1 only gets the stressy short-fused, shouty version of mum for the vast portion of the day and I hate it.

To give an example, I'll run you through our day today. DH got up early and fed DD1 and got her out of her nappy, then went to work. I lay in and B-fed DD2 whilst DD1 played on her own (not unusual - but that wee sleep I find is vital for me). When I got up, my first priority was to change DD2 & get breakfast for me. DD1 hangs around and talks at me/demands play/stories/etc. which I can't give. I come through to the living room where DD1 has begun a puzzle. I begin to help her when DD2 becomes grizzly and needing a nap. SO I have to leave DD1 and take DD2 upstairs to settle her. She doesn't settle due to a sore tum. But I persevere since I know she'll cry all day if she doesn't sleep. So, several put-down-cry-pick-up rounds later, I try leaving DD2. DD1 poor thing has been hanging around playing on the stairs all this time. I have to explain to her that when her sister has a sore tummy that any tiny noise she makes wakes her up again so it's a better idea to play downstairs when I'm trying to get DD2 to sleep. DD2 is crying again so I suggest DD1 goes downstairs now. She has a tantrum. I am pulled in all directions and feel exasperated so I sadly get short with DD1 and shut her bedroom door angrily. She escalates. I return to calm down DD2. DD1 is still screaming. I have to take DD2 through to DD1's room and tell her to stop crying or else her sister won't stop crying either and that this reaction is unacceptable and to go downstairs. She does, after a couple more minutes of tantrumming. I get dd2 settled and we get a bit more of the puzzle done before DD2 starts up again. After a while of settling I give up and bring her downstairs. It has been an hour by this point and I am frazzled with the screaming. DD1 appears from the kitchen. I later find out that she has taken the scissors to DH's paintbrushes. I handled that one better I think, but I found myself just wanting to scream at her to make me feel better and I'm so ashamed. I tried to explain the consequences of her actions e.g. no more scissors, perhaps no more money to buy magazines if DH has to buy more brushes, but it didn't feel like it was having any effect whatsoever. DD1 is also a poor eater and every mealtime is a battle to get her to eat more than a few mouthfuls (she doesn't get snack if she eats poorly so she's not full). I get so bored and frustrated sitting watching her (whilst feeding DD2) that I can't help myself from getting snappy and starting blackmail tactics . So there was some of that at lunchtime and she got a bit screamy if I got up and left the table to try and catch up on phonecalls or washing up since DD2 had calmed down by this point. I was on the verge of tears though and trying to get a GPs appointment for DD2 to see if we can do anything more for her pains, but can't get one until Monday.

Anyway, I got DD1 to nursery, and had to feed DD2 again to calm her down again and finally got her to sleep so I got an hour of peace to clear my head and felt a lot better. After nursery I insisted DD1 had a nap because she was up mega early before DH this morning. DD2 cried all afternoon. When DD1 reappeared she was pretty good. DH got home early whilst I was cooking tea and the girls were quietly amusing themselves in the living room. Somehow DD1 in her excitement at seeing daddy reverted to this morning's behaviour and I came in to find DH asking her to do something simple and her flat-out refusing in floods of tears which escalated into a full-blown screaming tantrum when she was asked to go to the step (she needed carried there by me as she was also refusing to go to the step). Cue more of this behaviour over tea. Early bedtime and more fannying around, dilly dallying and basically being as annoying as possible and me not dealing with it very well. I've told her that if she shouts at me or DH as she was doing this afternoon again then she won't get teddy at night time that night (her most prized comforter).

I feel so rotten. It's totally clear that she is deprived of mummy time (I am dispensable in her eyes at the moment, only daddy will do) but I just don't know how to give it when I'm BFing a screaming baby that won't nap, when the baby's needs come first and DH is at work. She is mimicking our anger and tempers because I've totally lost the capability to deal with situations calmly and dispassionately. I feel like I'm turning into a grumpy old cow, and I also feel, rationally or no, that I've now taught her the wrong way to deal with emotions and that she will never be able to erase that.

Bit of an essay. Thanks for listening. Tomorrow is Another Day.

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pinkteddy · 14/05/2010 20:34

You poor thing! This all sounds perfectly normal. Of course you haven't taught her the wrong way to deal with emotions - she won't remember any of this in a few years time.

I can't advise you on juggling the two dcs as I've only got the one, but I didn't want to leave your post unanswered. fwiw I do think your dd1 probably is craving some one on one mummy time - is there any way you can express milk, leave the youngest with your DH tomorrow and go out and do something nice with dd1? Even if only for an hour? Is there anyone to help you out a little bit in the week, give you a bit of a break?

hettie · 14/05/2010 20:44

think I might have a had a day that mirrored yours - only my baby isn't even refluxy/in pain.... just much less tolerant of ds since dd's arrival and he of course is wanting mummy time for reassurance- plus his behaviour is out of wack (combination of age -just turned 3- plus reaction to new arrival) and I just snap and stick him in time out far too often....
huge sympathies. I keep telling myself to give him more one to one time (he had none today) andmore positive praise when things are goign well, but I often fail miserably..

HumphreyCobbler · 14/05/2010 20:45

Oh your post resonates with me so much. It is so hard to cope with being pulled in two ways at once.

The book Siblings without Rivalry helped me enormously. I don't think I would have survived without it.

Do remember that you have NOT harmed your dd for life by being a bit short tempered with her.

I would also try bombarding her with praise as a way of escaping the negative cycle that you have found yourself in. That was the single biggest help in restoring the sanity back to my household. I got so bad one day that I just screamed at my ds for about five minutes, I was at the end of my tether (he would scream all day for no discernable reason, loud and long screams). I felt terrible, then realised that I had to try and redeem the situation. The next morning I told him everything I loved and liked about him, every single thing I could think of. Once I got started I found it hard to stop and the positive result in my son's behavior that day was incredible.

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ib · 14/05/2010 20:56

I feel for you. I have a similar age gap and often find it hard to juggle the needs of both.

Mostly I've given up on trying to get baby-free time, and just put him in a sling when I want to do something with ds1. He tends to be happy there and I can pay a bit more attention to ds1 that way.

A good rant at dh about my total lack of personal space helps too....

missorinoco · 14/05/2010 21:02

I also think it all sounds normal for what happened. You are a person not a saint. DC1 is v chatty, I miss the lack of head space. Sometimes I think my brain will blow.

Am being a rubbish mummy at the moment, so I have no tips, other than you won't be teaching her anything you can't get her out of, and tomorrow is, as you say, another day, hopefully with your DH off work too.

hobnob57 · 14/05/2010 21:06

Thanks for your sympathies. Even though i know everyone goes through this I can still convince myself that I'm just messing things up and I'm being irrationally horrid to DD1.

Thanks for the book reference Humphrey. I've got the How To Talk book and am making my way though that at the moment. It's al great but I forget it in the heat of the moment day

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LaDiDaDi · 14/05/2010 21:10

I have had days like yours too. Dd is just turned 4 and ds is 5months. I have posted before about how awful it sometimes feels and how I worry that I have damaged dd.

I'm not sure what to suggest, things are generally much better here at the moment, touch wood.

Try doing anything at all to break the negativity.
Ignore as much as you can, but I know that sometimes it's just the constant yammering demands that drive you mad rather than bad behaviour.
I wouldn't worry about the fussy eating tbh.
Is there something positive that you can do every day for your dd1? I tell my dd a story at bedtime which starts "Once upon a time there was a little girl called dd, she was helpful and cheerful, kind and clever, beautiful and lovely and she was also a very lucky little girl because she had a mummy and a daddy and a baby brother who loved her very much....then I start from the beginning of the day and talk about all of the things that she has done but without mentioning any bad behaviour. If it's been a good day then I ask her only what was her best bit of the day but if we've had problems that I also ask her if there was anything that could have been better and what we could do to have a better day tomorrow. This seems to work well.

Please never threaten to take away dd1's comforter , I threatened it once and felt so guilty, my dd probably loves it like a baby in her world.

HumphreyCobbler · 14/05/2010 21:11

I forget it all. I think I should keep a list pinned to the fridge. It is really hard to remember stuff when there are two screaming children hanging from you!

I was just thinking that your baby's health issues are putting things into another level of stress than most of the rest of us have to cope with, even with a similar gap.

I would do anything to make your life easier atm. Even if that means feeding your dd a picnic in front of the tv occasionally, rather than having a stressful mealtime.

mumoflittlemouse · 14/05/2010 21:12

I also have just the one DD so am equally unqualified to comment in useful detail like pink, but also like pink, I didn't want to leave you hanging after your rotten day.

Poor you

I think your main problem is the sleep deprivation, it is making everything else magnified. You are not doing so badly and yes, tomorrow is another day and you can make some small changes from first thing that will make you feel better about yourself.

What I can comment on with some authority is the issue where you are holding your DD2 to soothe her terrible stomach pains. Seeing you constantly cuddling her sister must be quite hard to take for your DD1 on some level and renders you physically unavailable for most of the time.

I was stuck like this with our DD for months too (horrendous colic), but didn't have the issue of an older sibling to worry about. Even so, we found that when our DDs colic was at it's worst (and OMG did we have to live through some screaming, sheesh!) she was actually soothed way better in her vibrating chair than in my arms. I would often have to fight my instinct to keep holding/jiggling her and strap her into her Fischer Price vibrating seat, switch it on and she would immediately begin to soothe. Also, do not feel guilty about using a bit of tele combined with the chair to settle her when she is suffering (we discovered Waybuloo with our DD and never looked back). It will probably help to distract her from her sore tum and again frees you up to share your attention and physical affection and contact with DD1.

We were at a 3yo's birthday party at the weekend just gone and it made me realise how they are still such LOs, even though your DD1 must seem so grown up compared to your second, she has been through massive changes in the last 6 months just as you and your DH have. Finding a 'handsfree' comfort for your DD2 will help you to reconnect and redress the balance a little in her direction.

You are all in this together, the 4 of you so try to keep thinking 'team' not 'her/them and us', not easy I know but it helps me sometimes.

My hat's off to you hobnob57, I often feel like I can only just cope with just the one 10 month old.

Sending you virtual m&s dinner for two, plus wine. You deserve it xx

mumoflittlemouse · 14/05/2010 21:14

ha ha, took me so long to type my rambling rant that 10 others have posted (much more useful stuff!) in the mean time. Hope that has helped you feel better.

hobnob57 · 14/05/2010 21:41

Thanks MOLM. We did have a vibrating chair but it didn't work for dd2 TBH. I find I can leave her in her bumbo surrounded by toys on cushions for periods, but I tend to use these times to catch up on things like going to the loo/getting a drink/food/dealing with nappies/washing rather than with DD1. Must Try Harder.

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mumoflittlemouse · 14/05/2010 22:02

Hmm, another friends LO with tummy trouble is good in a 'jumperoo' but sounds like you have explored this kind of thing...what a shame it doesn't help DD2

Again, a bit out of my league but I've read other mums here talking about involving LOs your DD1's age in jobs round the house. This could be something 'special' that only she can do as your 'big girl' and provide ample opportunity for heaping on that positive praise and those compliments to change the tone of your days. I know it will slow you down a bit rather than really helping you much, but could it be a tool to use sometimes?

I think actually, don't try harder, relax a little more. Do the minimum, you know the answers already, be a little kinder to yourself and ask for/ accept any help you can get next week to get a little respite.

Good luck hun

pinkteddy · 14/05/2010 23:43

Would home start help you? support for families. You can self refer.

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