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Help! What would you do if ur 5YO DS was so unhappy at school (long but pls read)

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JoCoolBeans · 03/03/2010 02:17

For ages now my DS would be happy enough going to school but once we get to his classroom he refuses to go in and gets upset and needy, the teacher has had to drag him in crying a few times as he wont go and in and sit down and if we walk him to his desk he doesnt want us to leave.

It's his first year at primary school, a big deal i know but he went to playschool the year before.

Then when my DP was discussing his progress report with his teacher she said he was doing fine in most areas but not doing well socially and sometimes just doesnt want to pay attention to the teacher.

Then she went on to mention that she's found him alone in the playground lots of times during break and lunch and he has came to her several times and told her that he feels really lonely.

Admittedly, there's only 7 in his class. 2 other boys and him. She says that most of the time 2 boys will play which leaves the other one out and they change who's left out from day to day. I think DS is left out mostly.

DS also went to play school with these kids. The vast majority of his play school friends went to another local religious school (we're not really a religious family) about 5 mins further than DS's school and he often says he misses them too.

It makes me want to cry just thinking about him being so lonely at school and that maybe this is were all the problems are coming from. The teacher said today to DP that he lashed out at another boy in class today and was basically telling DP to discipline him (which we have). But i think this is because if i were DS and someone didnt want to be my friend and i was painfully lonely i wouldnt want to be nice to them either.

DP is going to have another chat with DS's teacher in the morning and hopefully not get "ummed" and "ahhed" at and fobbed off again.

I believe that social interactions should at least be encouraged at school and not just education. Lets face it, it was the social side that made me feel good about being there and made me confident enough to do the work i was given.

I've always maintained that the most important thing you can give a child is self esteem and i always try to encourage and praise him and love seeing him achieve and be happy.

But all i see when i ask my son to do his homework is a little upset boy with no confidence left like it's all been taken out of him during the day. He hardly wants to look at it. It just makes him upset, its not like it's hard HW and something he cant do but he had absolutely no confidence to even look at it.

He's a smart boy and he has been quite sick and missed some school recently but i think everyone has made "clics" and he's just not in one.

DP is going to tell the teachers to encourage him socially because we cant be there to do it ourselves.

If it doesnt improve dramatically i'll be ringing up the other school and asking them if they have a free space for him starting P2 in Sept. But they have full classes. Which is why i think he'd have more friends and not be pushed out so much.

I just don't know what to do. I've personally given up/cant stand talking to his P1 teacher because she makes it out to be nothing.

I seriously need some guidance about this. I dont think i have anyone who i could talk to about this who would understand.

I know this is long winded and thank you for reading this.

What would you do?? I feel like crying. Life shouldn't feel like this for a 5 year old. I feel so bad for having to force him to do HW which takes 3 hrs when it would normally take 20 mins and have to put him in time out because he refuses and just cries his wee heart out It's terrible but i dont want them to make fun of him for being "stupid" for not doing his HW and falling behind in class.

He's not a bad boy, he's happy to talk to everyone and is a sunny bright child, always smiles at home and plays great with his little sister.

I really need some advice girls, pls pls pls. I can't see my son go on being unhappy

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savoycabbage · 03/03/2010 02:36

Hi,

it must be very hard if there are only seven in the class and only three boys. Can you strenghten the realationships that he has with the other two boys by asking them round (individually!) for tea or taking them out with your ds at the weekend. Or try to 'target' one of the girls and see if you can spark up a friendship there. It is hard for them to do it on their own I think.

DebsCee · 03/03/2010 02:40

My heart goes out to you, it really does. First, some questions for you and then I'll tell you what I would do in your situation.

Did your son have any problems socialising at playschool before school? Anything at all that bothered you or him there?

Have you spoken to your son about changing schools? What does he think the issue might be? Does he want to change schools?

Aside from school friends does your son socialise with other friends outside of school, like playdates etc? Have you invited his other class mates over to play?

In the same situation I'd go for a school move to the one you mention, given the limited class sizes and opportunities to socialise with other boys his age at his current school. I think sometimes the smaller class sizes can be a disadvantage for the less gregarious as there is less opportunity for mixed groups and it seems with only 3 boys at your sons school it is proving difficult. Even if the classes are currently full at the other school, can you not go on a waiting list and in the meantime could you spend the interim bolstering your DS's confidence? How much HW does he get? My son is in a small village school Y1 (class size is 15) and the only HW he gets is spelling lists once a week and a reading book. I'd look for a club or group outside of school where he can make friends, look to change schools as a long term plan and in the interim I'd invite the other boys & girls over for play dates.

Sounds to me that you need a short & long term plan and it may turn out that moving schools isn't necessary at all, and if it is, then in between times you've helped him socialise and bolstered his confidence.

JoCoolBeans · 03/03/2010 03:30

Thanks for your quick replies, i can't sleep.

It's a village school DS goes to as well, near the town.

In answer to your questions:

He did have a little trouble when he started playschool as one of the boys always fought with him and picked on him. This boy is now in DS's class but DS says theyre "friends".
But he played well with others in PS.

I spoke to him about it today, he said he wouldn't like to change schools but i think that's because like all kids, they like to know what to expect. I forgot to mention to him it was the school the others went to. He just says the others don't play with him in school.

The friends that he would play with outside of school all go to the other school. They would be friends he'd been playing with since he was 2 at the local playgroup.

I don't really know the other parents at his school as they all rush out so quickly and aren't ones to stand around talking at the start of school. Or they sit in their cars at hometime. They all live in the town as well and i live outside in the village. I don't drive so i couldn't take them anywhere and there's no where to take kids in the village (we don't even have a shop anymore) and DS's friends who live here go to the other school.

I just didnt send him there because i'm not catholic (his dad is tho but doesnt practice)
and we're unmarried and the Rev wouldnt christen my kids because i was unmarried and so felt like the church had turned its back on me and never went again. So i don't know if he'd meet the criteria of the other school. Then i had the added family pressure of everyone expecting him to go to the school he's at because everyone in my family went there (it's completely different now to what it was then)

Did i mention that i live in Northern Ireland so there is a lot of things i'd worry about if he went there but saying that, another girl from my church has sent her DD there and she's not catholic, she just thought it was a better school. They are accepting in that way i suppose.

As for homework, he gets lots of vocab home as well as sheet work which he is expected to complete and colour in everyday except Fridays. I thought with a small class size that he'd get more attention and flourish like he does at home but it's having the opposite effect.

I'm sure he'd love going to the other school, he just doesnt want to leave what he knows.

As for extra activities, when they had after class sports and art at the school i sent him to it but when it comes to football training (which i'd love to take him to) it just doesnt happen because by the time we all walk home, get HW done, get changed, get fed, he's too tired to walk a mile to town to run around for 45 mins and walk a mile back. I really wish i could drive, life would be so much better. But i dont think it would make his school time better so i'll not talk about that.

I'm just so unhappy to hear about him feeling this way. You can see it when you look at him, he avoids talking about school too when i'd love to hear how his day went. He just wants to keep me happy i suppose but i love him too much to see him so unhappy :'(

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Anste · 03/03/2010 04:30

I'm so sorry about all this. I know how things feel when your child is not happy. When my daughter was at primary school she didn't like the teacher so we moved her to another school and she didn't look back. This doesn't help you at all though (Just wanted you to know I know a little of what its like).

How about having a chat with the headteacher? If he/she is good they will want happy children and parents in their school. Perhaps your son could be paired up with a 'buddy', don't know the ins and outs of it (headteacher would or could find out). I've a feeling they are put with an older child.

I'll be thinking about you.

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