What's the best fleece wrap?

[alysonpeaches]

Both girls both have fleece overnight now. I have a tots fleece wrap for my one year old and a nature babies multiwrap for the two year old.

Ive decided I need a few more, which do you rate?

Will look at dancing bears fleecies.

I dont know about stay strong, I cant believe what I have just spent huge amount of paypal balance on ... a pink cupcake fleece skirtie from Monster Fluff!
Not good at links but think its here
hyenacart.com/MonsterFluffStudio/index.php?c=0&p=56114

Looked at dancing bears. Theyre not very girly are they?

PMSL at work kilties!!!

Watch it or you will be made to wear a kiltie!

I don't 'do' girlie so I love them. How about a Nightweight "Love" Kanji Soaker?

Its OK, but I would rather it was embroidered with a cupcake or a fairy I think.

Im just wondering whether DH could carry off a utilikilt? Pity he has absolutely no diy skills.

For those of you who dont know what we're on about

secure.creocommunico.com/~dancing/index.php?cPath=40&osCsid=21a68898d9f14a2d1c609afaa9646f89

Im ordering the fourth one, and a big lumberjack to put in it.

I need a Survival Utilikilt. Have you seen the price??? $290.00!!!

I cant get next to the wool thing. Do you get better results with wool than fleece, or is it just aesthetics?

I was also thinking, in the middle of the night, as you do, at what point did waterproof pants (presumably rubber but not being strange) take over from knitted knickers or soakers?

That sounds really weird, what I mean is in the 1940's or 30's or when did people stop using wooly pants on babies.

Shall we get together to write a History of Nappying?

I really like fleece because it takes so much abuse but wool is just so damn lush - and it does seem rude to put PUL or fleece on a Bedbug.

Yes I think I would like to research that. Google wasnt much help as history of nappies concerned mainly the development of disposables. Theres something on diaper jungle, but not enough really.

The reason I ask is my grandma used to knit dollies clothes and always knitted a pair of knickers to match, these were referred to in the pattern as "pilch". I once said something along the lines that I was glad I didnt wear wool knickers and she said well babies used to, and they used to have wool swimming suits too!

pilch
The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology | 1996 | T. F. HOAD | © The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology 1996, originally published by Oxford University Press 1996. (Hide copyright information) Copyright

pilch outer garment of skin dressed with the hair or of woollen stuff OE.; saddle pad XVI; baby's wrapper XVII. OE. *pileċe, (late) pyl(e)ċe = OHG. pelliz (G. pelz fur, furred coat) ? medL. pellicia cloak, for L. pellicea, f. pellis skin.

Will ask mother and see what she can remember.

I wish in a way I did like the wool stuff because Im quite a good knitter and can also crochet, but even the crocheted skirties leave me cold.

Sweet! It is fascinating, isn't it? It would be really interesting to see what they do/did in other countries and cultures.

Actually there's probably a PhD in it, but I dont have the staying power for that, but some sort of website or blog should cover it.

I have begun my research with a list of nappy history sites, these are sadly mostly American.

Early and primitive cultures used moss, Elizabethans used cloth but changed it every 4 days. They didnt wash them but just left them to dry. You have to wonder why the babies bottoms didnt rot away.

The reason it interests me so is Im a mature parent and had my first child when terry cloth square use was the norm, so Ive seen a lot of changes. Must ask mum about what went before.

Four days!

Think I just found those nappy facts! They powdered the babies bottom with worm eaten wood dust. We've got Marion Donovan to thank for inventing disposibles, She made the first ones out of plastic shower curtains, made into envelopes filled with absorbent material!

yeh

www.borntolove.com/history.html

www.diaperjungle.com/history-of-diapers.html

www.disposablediaper.net/content.asp?2

Wish I had time ...

Reminds me of when I had my first, who is now 27. Disposables which were all in one had just come out (before that there were 2 parters which were rubbish). I think the leading brand then was Snugglers and there was actually NO elastic in the legs, so our darling little boy used to pee through the gap, he did it in the hospital the first time his daddy visited. Before the snugglers there were some called paddi pads which were basically plastic pants with snaps on the side with an insert that looked like a huge sanitary towel. I remember my cousin filling one of them, literally, with baby poop whilst out in her pushchair on holiday. I wasnt going to risk that.

27 alyson!!! I am guessing you are slightly older than even me!

YUP! but young at heart!

Just had to have another look at the kilts. Its like porn. Bad porn.

Asked mother about nappies of the past. She confirmed that in 1959/60 most babies wore terry squares, as a liner torn up sheets were used, and topped off with rubber pants.

She couldnt remember any further back, she did have a little sister but couldnt remember her nappies, only sharing a bed with her and little sis peeing on her leg. She also remembered the shame of a knitted swimming costume during WW2 when you couldnt get the elastic or cloth. School swimming lessons were aa trial for her.