Mumsnet jury needed. Amateur making fireworks and explosives at home with young baby there. Ok or Not???

[FireworkFury]

i really need some help here,

i am a reg with a name change,

xp is making/using/testing fireworks,

after our split i found out he had been doing it in secret at home, i was livid,

he has continued even though i had asked him to stop,

it is dangerous, stupid and to him exciting irresponsible,

he buys chemicals on line (some toxic) and them 'makes' them in his flat,

i am worried about the safety of my baby,

she only stays over once a week,

am i being pfb about this?

he says he knows what he is doing, i dont want to stop contact, i am glad she sees her dad, it is the explosive thing that concerns me,

would you allow this to happen?

you ladies want some details of the chemicals involved?

maybe someone can tell me they harmless?

You just click on the 'flag as inappropriate' button and write them a note (including your contact details) or better still ask the police to do it!

You can cache youtube videos now they are owned by Google btw.

he has a whole channel i just found (in the last 10 mins)

i want to move to the other side of the world,

how can he do this to us?

bump, please

needy bump,

come on mumsnetters give me the power i need,

i have to have a sound argument,

gunpowder vs safety.

ok, so even if he says he is an 'expert' (less than 6 months training) and he assures me he doesn't do it when she is around you all think it is still unreasonable?

the vids are really something else...

i am at the end of being rational

I think you should contact some people who work in stage/event pyrotechnics and talk to them about what your XP is doing. Because I think there is a certain amount of hysterical mundane over-reaction on this thread (Waaah! Wierd stuff I don;t understand! It must be EEEEVILLL!) And the average plod will not necessarily know enough about it not to have an officious hissy fit either so, before you make a big potentially embarrassing production out of the whole thing, talk to some people who know about the relevant stuff.

i think you should contact your local police - i'm pretty damn sure making your own firworks is not legal although the Fireworks Act is spectacularly silent about it - try the Explosives Act 1975 i think x

would not be okay with me, but then i went to school with a guy who made his own fireworks. he's just got the one arm now, the bloody eejit.

OP - if you don't use Firefox as a browser, download it here.

Then download this program, which will put a button next to your web address bar.
When you surf to the video and click on that button, a drop down menu will appear offering you the option of which video from the page to download.

I'm in a slightly different field of pyrotechnics to your XP but having used them for the past 6 years, I know that these chemicals need locking away from most adults, let alone children. Anyone with 6 months of "training", who tries to fob you off like this, doesn't know what they're talking about.

When my BIL used to work in defence munitions, he and the rest of his colleagues would get sent home if there was even so much as one crack of lightning.

Y A N B U !

Mental - I know someone who used to work in a fireworks factory years ago - an explosion there killed several colleagues and she quit and looked for a new job!

REPORT HIM TO THE POLICE!

Sorry, forgot to add: chemical MSDS (material safety data sheets) should have very specific instructions on how they should be stored.
If there is a possibility they could be accessed by children, or that they pose a risk to the vicinity, the Health & Safety Executive would prefer to know about it.

I used to know someone who drove a car. It crashed and they died.

SGB - come on - that's hardly a realistic comparison, is it. Pigeon shit is no excuse.

lol, sgb. not quite the same thing...

Well the people I know who dabble in pyro-making (ie they are not officially employed by big companies with armies of HS officials running about after them with clipboards, but have studied the subject and have an aptitude for it) are not dead. It's perfectly possible to make really alarming explosives with a bag of flour and an enquiring mind. It's also perfeclty possible for toddlers to maim themselves with ordinary kitchen utensils or household chemicals.

yes, but it rather ups the ante on the risk stakes to be making fireworks with a toddler/baby around, doesn't it. Not a risk worth taking, imo.

Well, some of my colleagues - some of whom have been professionals in the business for years longer than I, decades even - are dead.
Some "lucky" ones are either disabled or scarred for life.

OP, another thing: log onto this site on Monday. Property deeds are a public document and may shed some light on whether there are any restrictions on the storage or use of explosives at his address.
If there are, they'll be there for very good reasons, usually according to what's in the neighbourhood.

lol at 'and have an aptitude for it'. right up until it blows their face off.

was taken by a journalist into a bar in belfast once, and was surprised by the relatively high number of chaps missing fingers, eyebrows etc or holding onto the pint glass with two stumps.

well, the journo pal said, it's a learning curve, making bombs.

Just about everything in life is risky to some extent. Lots of people die and get hurt doing lots of very ordinary things. In amongst the usual crazy-screechy-monkey-poo-flinging about someone having an unusual hobby, it's perhaps fairly important (before bringing in AUTHORITY to make the naughty person STOP doing anything interesting and sit in front of the telly like the other normals) to ascertain whether the person is doing the stuff recklessly or simply doing it with reasonable precautions taken.

solid, do you want the footage of the baby and the pram?

i fully take in what you are saying,

i accept this is a hobby some careful peeps may enjoy, if the majority of 'normal' people do this then ok,

its just i believe my xp is one of the 'stupid' and 'overly confident' ones, you know, the one that blows himself and the flat up,

see, i am a reasonable woman, more than reasonable many would say but lead based chems and the likes is a no for me...

he is a fool, and a big lying one at that,

can notplaying help me out here?

my basic understanding is as follows...

one firework, make, light, watch and repeat?

yep? so one is ok,

but 15 for a party are not?

15, made at home, held on to, not boxed and transported across town on the back of a car is pushing ones luck?