Night time training - where to go from here?

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DS is 3.5. He's been potty trained about 9 months but still wears pull up to bed. Its always wet in the morning, he sleeps very heavily.
For the last few weeks he's been waking up most nights for a wee, usually before I go to bed so I hear him. Out of habit he wee's, then takes off his pull up and sticks it in the bin! He does this every morning soon as he gets up, so he just automatically does it half asleep at night.
When I hear him have a wee, I then know to sneak in and pop another nappy on him before I go to bed while he's sleeping.
When he does it after I've gone to bed or I dont hear him, then he goes back to bed and wakes up in the morning with wet bed.

Is there anything I can do to help him wake up this second time instead of wetting the bed?
Is it better to keep putting another nappy on while he's asleep or try and leave it off to encourage him to wake?
Any other ideas?

IMO it's time to put a waterproof sheet on the bed and get rid of the pull-ups. He has learned to wee in his pull-up when he's perfectly capable of getting on the potty to do that wee, especially with a bit of help from his mum. Again, it sounds like he's having his morning wee in the pull-up when he could be doing it in the potty.

OOOh FS I need the answer to that question too....

My son is 4.5 and will be going to school this year. I potty trained him when he was 2.5 and all went so well. within 2 weeks he was fully potty trained day and night. And then slowley the nights became a problem and because he was so young we decided to use pull ups at night and just see how it goes.

But nothing has changed! Last night I bathed the kids at 4:30 and put a pull up on straight after bath (because earlier on in the week I did not and forgot to put one on before bed and he wet his bed).

So I decided to test him.. and so before bed at 7ish I checked his nappy an he had used it instead of going to the toilet!

So Daddy got really upset and took them off and told him he will not have them back and now has to learn to get up... and will now sleep in his wee until he gets it right .

So When I went to bed last night I tried to get him up to take him to the loo and he had already wet the bed....

Like you I want to know if leaving it off will encourage him to wake up as he seems to sleep through anything!

Lets hope someone can come along soon with an answer..... or some advice.

Ches.... do you know where to get plastic sheets from?

I can't find any...

fsticks, if you hear your DS getting up for a wee, do you rush to him to try and get him to wee in the potty/toilet, and is he already wet if you do? It sounds to me as if he is woken by wetting, and then removes his pull-up. But only trying without will let you know whether he is using it for convenience, or whether he will wake when he feels himself starting to wet in his sleep and tries to get up to the loo, or indeed wakes before he starts to wet and goes to the loo.

mistiek, you can get waterproof sheets from Boots or Mothercare. You may be able to get them from bedding shops. You can also get duvet protectors, handy if your child makes a 'nest' with their duvet. But these may be a bit hot to sleep under. I like the full fitted sheet style myself, also protects the mattress from sick! and if your child moves around the bed a lot in their sleep, when they may not actually be lying on the smaller pad types. I understand Daddy's frustration, but if you find that DS is wet night after night without the pull-ups, he's not ready. You can't train for nights until DS is physically ready, is dad aware of anti diuretic hormone that starts to be produced which regulates urine production and concentration while asleep? Children vary enormously at when this occurs, so unfair to punish him for this when wetting happens during deep sleep. However, you can be cross about him wetting a pull-up while fully awake, because that is just laziness, so don't give the opportunity.

Don't put a pull-up on a child until they are just about to get into bed, and make sure they do a wee before it is put on! This should help you remember if you make it a habit.
It's a good thing to encourage in older children, wee before getting into bed, and also if there is a long time between getting into bed and going to sleep e.g. if reading in bed.