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Have I been debating with Xenia in Times Online

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bigmouthstrikesagain · 17/02/2009 23:50

Below I have cut and pasted the response I got from Supermother regarding my reply to an earlier post of hers I am convinced it is Xenia by the writing style/ subject matter etc.

timesonline.typepad.com/alphamummy/2009/02/dummy-mummies-a.html link to the article/ comments

'Most women have always worked. Childcare has never been a job. If your children survived byeond 5 they were normally sent out to work or worked for you or minded sibilngs. This idea that being at home minding a child is "work" is just a bit unusual in historical terms.

I had three children udner 4 at one point adn I agree that is pretty hard labour but it's not really a career choice most women want to make nor do they need to be with the children 24/7. Of course some weren't earning much anyway so they have to take on that dull work because there's nothing else they could do which would earn them more than childcare costs or because they live in sexist marriages with men who want to keep them down.

Why don't I accept their choices? Because every woman who requests flexible working, who works part time, who does more chores at home than a man is making a political decision which has implications on how other women are viewed at work and how children see the roles of men and women. Thus it is in effect a knife in the heart of their daughters and other women. It is not an isolated decision with no implications for others.

When we reach a point where 60% of bankers and the cabinet and direcotrs of PLC are female I will let up. Until you've all in your second careers once you've brought up the 2.4 children, and then had your well paid second career and achieved that for me I will not let up.

And also because work is great fun and you don't see anything like enough articles about women who work full time with large families and love it and make it work. it's just an image the media never chooses to prsent adn yet I know women in the City with 5 - 8 children and like many men they work and enjoy it and have a lovely family life.

Posted by: Supermother | 11 Feb 2009 09:22:12'

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mrshamiltiongiles · 17/02/2009 23:53

what i want for women is choices

Quattrocento · 17/02/2009 23:53

Yes you have - it is well known I think that Xenia is Supermother on the Alphamummy/Times Online thing. Her style is very recognisable.

RandomStranger · 17/02/2009 23:54

erm what are you on about ?

Not only do we have threads about threads on MN are we starting threads about threads on other websites ??

[head explodes]

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bigmouthstrikesagain · 17/02/2009 23:56

I always feel like a traitor to the feminist cause after a few rounds of this debate - then I remind myself that I am a marxist at heart and the bankers/ city types et al will be first against the wall no matter their gender!

I am up with all 3 children in bed with me one with earache, one having nightmares and the youngest breastfeeding - so I have to admit I am glad I don't have to get up and be all highpowered tomorrow.

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bigmouthstrikesagain · 17/02/2009 23:58

apologies random stranger tis merely boredom on my part please do ignore - was not my intention to explode your head.

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RandomStranger · 17/02/2009 23:59

'S ok

PeachyHasABrokenKeyboardSorry · 18/02/2009 00:07

childcare is not a career choice?

Like Mrs Hamilton I want choice, but also respect for my choices.

But I wouldnt mind Xenia abck here coz when you dig she'sOK,really. We all have our hobby horses after all.

bigmouthstrikesagain · 18/02/2009 00:11

too true peachy - tis very boring when everyone agrees and I respect her opinions in the sense that they are clearly considered deeply held and not just knee jerk.

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cory · 18/02/2009 00:54

what about SAHDs (happen to know a few)? Are they a knife in the heart to their sons?

and if looking after children is below women (and presumably men), because they all owe it to themselves to become bankers, who is going to run the childcare?

Ð¥enia · 29/12/2023 12:57

Am I? Am I not? Guess you''ll never find out.

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