When was your dd / ds dry through the night?

[mummylonglegs]

We're in week 2 of dd (2 1/2) potty training. She's been doing really well. Although I've no intention of attempting night training, for the last 5 nights she's woken up with a totally dry nappy! So I've stopped putting her in one for nap times but am going to continue with night nappies for the time being as it might be a fluke.

Anyhow, I wondered what your experiences of this were?

mummyhill, hugs for you.
put her back into nappies. either try the pullups, or the motherease bedwetters. at 17 pounds each they are pricey, but better for the environment, and if you buy two, will be free after the first seven weeks of use.
will make your own life easier

its not so much to do with how mucha child drinks, as to serotonin production in the brain.

toothache, what we tried with DS1 (and i think it worked) was no juice or squash at all, day or evening, but lots of water and milk. Talked to DS about it and his nursery etc of course, all agreed (he was keen to be dry too, bless him).
I find that even now squash in general, and blackcurrant in particular, drunk in the evening may mean a wet bed.
mummyhill have you checked for a urine infection? Quite common in girls

Clary, that's an interesting point. Hadn't thought of that. We just give him fresh apple juice that I dilute further though, would that be the same as squash?

Dd has just come out of nappies at night. she was 4 last week. Have had a couple of wet beds, but she's such a good sleeper (like her mummy) that she's not woken up. Tears in the morning though

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toothache I agree that diluted actual juice (as opposed to squash which everyone round here calls juice arrrggghh!) is obv preferable, but we did eliminate that as well. Obviously had to have DS1?s agreement (he was fine) and if yrs is not so keen on milk or water then I wouldn?t bother as the fluid intake is vital.
BTW a friend has a ds who is 6.5 and still has very wet nappies. doc?s won?t even look at it until they are 7.

ds1 is 6 1/2 and still not dry at night for alot of the time. He gets asthma and excema as allergic reactions to pollen, dustmites etc. Whenever the allergies are bad he wets the bed 2 or 3 times a night regardless of how many times he goes to the loo. We have tried alarms but nothing seems to work. I am not sure whether is is a side effect of the allergies or whether he just gets so tired with the itching he cant wake up. Am inclined to think it is the allergies because of the frequency per night. When I have mentioned to the GP they just look at me as if I am crazy and move swiflty on..... Does anyonw else have experience bed wetting related to allergy?? We try not to make an issue of it to him because we dont want hime to be anymore stressed than he is about it - he gets very upset when it happens and is particulary worried as sleepovers are becoming popular among his friends.

What do you all mean by 'dry at night'? Ds1 decided at 3 that he wouldn't wear nappies any more at night (was dry in day at 2.5). But I didn't think he was ready and twice a week or so he would wake me up at 4ish to change all the sheets etc, so now I take him to the loo before I go to bed - around 11 - and that takes him through. As he doesn't wet the bed anymore I think I'd say that he's 'dry at night' but he might not be if I didn't pick him up.
So how long should I keep putting him on the loo at night? I suppose I should just leave it a few nights and see, but I hate getting up.

zubb the lifting at night never worked for ds1, he sometimes did a wee and sometimes not but it made no difference to if he was dry later iyswim. Just never needed to with dd as she used to get up herself for a wee (goes right through now and has for ages).
If lifting works then i think it's worth doing. I guess you could try stopping for a few days and see how you go?

Zubb - daren't try lifting my monster at night, she won't go back off again. It's bad enough trying to get her to go to sleep as it is there is allways something more interesting to do or something to learn, doesn't seem to matter what i do she is such a light sleeper as well the slightest thing wakes her and then i takes another hour or so to get her settled in again. Too much hard work at the moment iykwim. Am dreading September i will have to deal with tiny whilst dh deals with dd durring night feeds don't quite know who gets the worst deal, probably dh as tiny may be easier to settle than dd.

we're lucky then as ds1 tends to do a wee when I put him on the loo, and goes straight back to sleep when his head hits the pillow. It was just very strange that as soon as he turned three he decided that he was too big for nappies - don't know where that came from as it certainly wasn't something we had talked about.

Elljay - can't help with the link to allergies sorry, hope you get some answers soon though.

My eldest daughter,now 7, was dry during the day by 2 1/4, she was then dry at night by 2 1/2. However my second daughter, now 5, was not so staightforward. She was dry during the day from 2 1/4. However she only became dry at night about 4 months ago. She was waking up with a soaking nappy every morning until then.

I don't think there is anything you can do, they are just ready when they are ready. It is tempting to take them out of nappies when you feel they should be, but you're just making lots of extra work for yourself. Both physically, changing beds in the middle of the night and mentally, trying to persuade a child to do something they are not ready for.

I found talking to other Mums reassuring. All of those whose children weren't dry until they were older, said not to rush the child and now mine is dry I know I did the right thing. Even though when she was younger I wanted her to be dry at night as early as her sister. This is the first time I have contributed a message, I felt moved to contribute because I remember how frustrated I felt in the same situation.

Going back to the original contributer, I think 5 days is very good and she will probably be OK. Both my daughters, once they got the hang of it, they were fine. I did put my second daughter on the loo when I went to bed at 11, for a couple of weeks. She had would have been asleep since 7.30.

Hope all this is reassuring.

DS1 & 2 daytime dry at 2y8m and night dry 8 months later (with no real effort on our part to train them, we're too lazy. Just happened.) DS1 asked to wear ordinary pants at night one day (had been having regular dry pullups) and with DS2 I ran out of pull ups and asked if he'd like to wear ordinary pants after we'd had about a fortnight of encouraging him to keep his pullups dry.

DS1 had a few accidents but DS2 has probably had about 1 in the 10 months he's been night trained. I'm a big fan of simply leaving them until they're ready

I can't see how one could do anything but leave them until they're ready in this case? It's not as if they're awake when they wee are they? I couldn't actually imagine giving dd rewards for being dry all night because isn't it out of her control to a large extent?

Have decided its back to nappies till she feels more secure and stops wetting again. At least it is only at night time.

But the thing is mummylonglegs, quite a few people (on this and other threads) ahve said that they have stopped using nappies BEFORE they were consistently dry in the morning - and it worked. Which kind of makes it difficult to know when they are ready. Sometimes for example I'm pretty sure ds1 has weeed in his nappy after he's woken up - so really he could have done it in the potty. And I know that SOMETIMES he is dry in the morning.
For now I'm happy to wait and see (especially since he has said he doesn't want to go without nappies) but if we are still at the same point when he is 4 I might be tempted to have a go anyway.

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My dd potty trained herself (ie copying others at nursery, asking for a potty at home and then using it) at 21 months. She began to be regularly dry at night about a month later (out of nappies just in time for ds to be born) and still only occasionally wets the bed at 3 and a half. She too has a steel bladder and can go a whole 6 hours at nursery without using their loo which she says is dark and cold. Bless. Hoping ds will be similarly easy to do - he will be 2 in the summer so will start the potty training once the weather gets warmer and we're outside more. People have told me that boys take longer, so won't stress if he is not as quick as his sister was!

my ds was early on the potty 18mths...but as yet we still have wet nights hes 4.2yrs......

ds was dry about 4.6.. all are diff tho.. ds decided he didnt want to wear pull ups so we bought a special pack of pirate pants for bed time . Was pretty suprised tbh as where he has been between homes (mine and xp) he did really well.

Gosh, I wish I knew what it was that makes them all so different. I'm sure someone should do a scientific study of it!

According to Ferber (him of the Solve your child's sleep probs) it is largely genetic. If you or your partner were a late starter / bed wetter, it is likely that your children will be. And if you weren't, then your children will get the hang of it quicker, too. So I guess if your kids are taking a while, ask your mum or your MIL and see what they have to say. In my experience, there has always been a link.

That's interesting, Cha. I don't know about dp as he's adopted. But I know I was dry at night very soon after I was in the day because my mum was amazed as my brother (1 year older) took ages to be dry at night. I beat him to it apparently! I'll ask MIL when I can force myself to speak to her .

My eldest was 4 before she was dry at night but my youngest just decided when she hit 2 that she didn't need nappies at all - night or day - can't believe how lucky we've been!