DD no sign of night time nappy training - do we care??????

[treedelivery]

Am a total newbie here so forgive any gaffs!!

My DD is 4, potty trained at 3 in a few days - we waited till she really just sorted it out herself and asked for the loo or potty rather than embarking on a training thing - but Im starting to think maybe 4 is time to give up nappies at night?

Or should I just be cool and let it happen when she's ready? Or try to egg her on a bit?

She walked lateish and talked lateish etc etc - but then just got it one day and was an expert from day one. HAve only had 2 wee accidents since potty training for example.

But then - nappies cost and hers are grim in the am, she gets a bit of thrush now and then from the moist yak environment. Yum

What are our thoughts? My mum says it's high time she was out of them.

It's all hormonal, apparently

The production of a hormone that inhibits urine production at night can kick in anytime between 1-7 yrs old

Until that happens a child will produce urine and therefore wet, at night, in their sleep

DD1 is 4.11 and is still in a pull-up at night (but in the last month it has been VERY light, so I suspect she will be dry in the next few months or so)

I think you had the right attitude and approach to potty training, so just continue this with the nighttime issue!

(Btw my Mum also thinks kids should be dry at night by 3)

I agree (with bernard). It's not something you can rush, I don't think. dd is nearly 4, has been dry in the day for well over a year but her pull ups are still soaking in the morning. We're just waiting for her to grow out of it...

What is her nappy like in the morning?

DD was 3.5 and her nappy was soaked each morning. HV said bite the bullet and ditch them as she seemed to wee as soon as she woke up. Never a wet bed once from her. I tried to lift her but she had a fit.

DS 3 last week has been out of night nappies 5 nights now, I lift him and he usually wakes in the night for a wee. I put the potty chair in his room with wipes so it less disruption.

The only thing I could say is talk about it, and try it and obviously praise praise each morning.

Good luck

Fab Fab Fab

Think thats exactly what I wanted to hear - although am interested in other opinions too!

As 30 week pregnant person can really agree it's all hormonal. Very much so from where i'm sitting

Thank you for moral support - and any tips coming my way!

Congratulations on dc2-to-be!

So, you DEFINITELY don't want to be up half the night stripping beds then...

Nappy wet a few hours into the night to be honest. Which made me think I should hang on.

She def does a huge one in the morning - and then runs into our room and slings the great warm sodden thing at us to get us up!! Some alarm clock.

Maybe I'll start monitoring it a bit and if it's dry in the night I'll get motivated to train.

Thought fills me with fear. Wee wee sheets and duvets. urgh.

Maybe I'll just keep her in nappies till any babies I have are 10, and I'll have one too as I'm fed up of getting up for wee's.

Mrs Santa - do you pop them on the pot during the night then?

Everything I have read says you should wait until most nappies are dry first thing (most will wee when they get up as we all do!) but dry through the night iyswim?

Keep doing your own thing. Don't push her or you will make work for yourself and make her stressed about wet beds.

Congrats on the imminent arrival and welcome to MN

Thank you one and all!

Isn't it lovely to be able to ask questions!!??

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hello and welcome to mumsnet

I have a 4yo DD1 as well, she was terrible to potty train took over a year for her to finally get it (I think she has a weak bladder) anyway like you I couldn't be bothered washing bed linen etc and thought it's only one pull up.

One morning shortly after DD3 was born so she was just turned 4 I went into her room to wake her and she said "Mummy you forgot to put a pull up on and I got up and went to the toilet and my bed is dry" she didn't want to wear pull ups anymore. I think we had one night where she wet the bed but in general she gets herself up at least twice in the night (hence weak bladder).

I found with the pull up on she was being lazy and peeing in it instead of the toilet even before she went to bed so it would go on downstairs then upstairs and by the end of stories she has peed.

TBH I would just let it happen at her pace, you may find that once the baby comes and she sees tbe baby having nappies she won't want one anymore.

Tips are if you do go nappyless have a spare pair of PJs/pants and a spare sheet already out so you don't need to go looking for them if she wets in the night, oh and a good tip is buy some Pampers Bed Mats and put one under the sheet saves the mattress getting soaked.

we stopped putting a nappy on ds1 at night (more because he still won't poo in a potty and he would hold it till his bedtime nappy) and he learnt in a about 2 weeks to be dry

he's 3.9

Sweetkitty - So you had the eureka moment. I've forgotten a few times to put nappies on, or she's dropped off in a car or something. Always ended in wee wee bed so no eureka moment as yet.

I guess she's either not ready - or lazy. I'll bide time till DD2 arrives. I'm using washable nappies with next one, so I guess a few sheets and pj's in with it all wont make much difference.

I thin parenting is all about wee, poo and finding fruit with a small bite out of it.

We have been dry for 8 nights now with 1 accident.
Like you we were waiting for dry nappy in the mornings and they jsut did not come.
Some one told me to feel the nappy in the morning, if it is wet and warm, its a fresh wee therefor child is holding till morning and out of habit...is doing a wee.

this was true!

so we talked about it with him for about a week when the nappy packet was running low, said we would not buy any more.

We also bought a couple of good quality matress protectors and bit the bullet.

HUGE praise and fuss when the bed is dry in the mornings and stickers to reward!

So pleased as we thought that we would never be free of nappies.
HOORAH!!

treedelivery - it was really all her, I honestly thought she would be in a pull up at 5, I've never known a child that pees as much as she does. I think she would never had had a dry pull up in the morning, as I said before she actually has to get up in the night sometimes as many as 3 times but usually 2. I think the time was just right that in her sleep she knows when to get up for the toilet IYSWIM like us adults do.

Honestly I would leave it and when the baby comes make a point of gently saying oh babies have nappies, big girls have pants at night

Tree,
I have been lifting him when I go to bed, sometimes he goes and if not I lift him in the middle of the night. The potty is in his room.

Does she nap during the day and if so is she dry or wee's?

Hi - sorry been at work on 12 hour days.

She doesn't nap. Gave up at 12 months, the only thing she did early. Typical. If she does drop off in car or something then she doesn't wake for a wee - just wets bed.

some children are dry early during day but still in nappies at night

its not the end of the world - 4 is still quite young - if 7 then i would take to doctor and get checked out for wee infections

you can give no nappies a try for a few nights,lift at 11ish and see if bed gets wet, or if they wee literally in the morning (love the warm wee nappy reply - but very true)

tbh it would be easier to do now before baby comes as you will def have your hands full,though you will be up a few times in the night to feed baby, so you could lift/check then

treedelivery - you could be talking about my dd, also 4. She had been waking with hugely wet massive nappies and also did the taking it off and slinging it thing! recently she's been getting really sore and having awful nappy rash that just wouldn't clear. Last week I decided we had to do something so I bought some of these, since then we have gone for nappy free but also no pants or pyjama bottoms. We have been lifting to take her to toilet mid evening and then when we go to bed at midnight. She normally does 2 big wees. She then wakes up in the morning and takes herself off to toilet. Her rash is so much better and she is also happier as she was fed up with nappies. We've been doing this for 4 nights now and last night was the only night when she weed on the pad - once mid evening when I forgot to lift her and then about 5.30am this morning. Generally it's a start, I know people have said lifting doesn't work as they are still weeing in their sleep but we had to get her out of nappies as she was so sore it was horrendous.

Good luck with it all, I know it's a hard one to deal with.

My daughter is four in a few months time and still wears pull ups at night, but they are very rarely dry. Also if she has an afternoon sleep she sometimes wets herself. She normally takes a small cup of juice to bed with her in case she is thirsty in the night, do you think this is a bad idea? Or will she simply stop wetting herself eventually?

ignore your mum.

DS1 has just come out of night time nappies - he is 6.10

DS2 was dry at night at 3

no rhyme or reason

i wouldnt attemp nigh time drying till the afternoon sleep of 1/2/3 hrs they are dry

and yes once i start drt at night, i do limit the amount of liquid they have, try not to give after 6pm - just till they get the hang of it, and yes i wouldnt give a drink to have during the night