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Sinterklaas Question

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TheRealMrsJohnSimm · 08/11/2008 00:23

I am English and married to Dutchman and two boys 8 & 4. Each year, Sinterklaas visits our house . However, DH is very vague on these things and sadly MIL is no longer with us so I have no point of reference other than websites - which I don't find particularly inspiring. I would really like to do things properly this year. So, each evening we put shoes by the fire, sing etc. Kids wake up to find gift in shoe with a sprinkling of pepernoten and candy. We do the chocolate letters, almondstaaf, speculaas. However, I buy all this stuff in and wondered if anyone could share recipes with me? Also, it always feels like a really "anglicised version" of Sinterklaas. What traditions do you have in your homes that I can use here? Any particular food (apart from the candy etc)? Do you decorate the house? (we deliberately don't put up regular christmas decorations until Sinterklaas has been). Also, I would like to do the poem thing this year as my eldest is now 8 and could do something fun with this. Can someone explain in more detail please?

Bedankt!

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Tanja1964 · 08/11/2008 22:30

We never had sinterklaas decorations, but we put our shoes out and put hay and carrots for his horse in. The next morning there would be a few pepernoten in return or a bit of chocolate. We would also visit sinterklaas (normally a neighbour dressed up) and he would look at his book to see whether you had been good (a petrifying experience!), as otherwise you would be hit by Zwarte Piet and put in the sack to be taken back to Spain. Zwarte Piet and Sinterklaas might also come and do home visits.
As we got older we had to make presents for each other called surprises (pronounced the Netherlands way). We would draw names out of a hat, were set a (very modest) budget and had to acquire a present, wrap it up, make a surprise out of it (this was expected to be elaborate) and a matching poem.
This was such fun!!! And often silly too; think cardboard box filled with stroop and cotton wool. It is also nice for children to understand where the tradition comes from: Spain, Saint, zwarte Piet, schimmel etc. Enjoy!

hippipotami · 08/11/2008 22:36

Everything Tania has said brings back such wonderful memories.

Re the poem - if your gift for one of your boys consists of say art materials, the present would be hidden inside something art related (I once made a huge pencil out of a poster tube and filled it with that 'slime' you can buy, the present would be wrapped inside the tube.
For a musical friend my dad helped me make a guitar with the surprise hidden inside.
The poem relates to the friend and the hobby / gift.
I vividly remember doing a poem for my mum about how she was stressed, running around cooking and baking, and I had made her a cardboard oven out of a large box and hidden her present of kitchen utensils, a voucher to the recording of a cookery show and bars of chocolate inside.

Great fun!

In fact my dc are 5 and 9 now, I may start doing the surprises thing

We never had Sinterklaas decorations, not sure they even exist.
But large quantities of pepernoten and borstplaat (not sure what the translation into english would be for that)

Have fun with it - it is great!!

hippipotami · 08/11/2008 22:36

Tanja, not Tania, sorry

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OllieWollieWoo · 09/11/2008 20:19

I'm married to a Dutchie too and we do all of the above - including the poem that goes with the present!

My husband always says there are no house decorations until after Sinterklaas - but I still haven't got used to having the family party with presents etc without festive decorations!

If you receive Dutch TV - St Niclaas arrives in Holland by boat next Saturday!

We get a neighbour to bang on the door and leave a sackful of presents on the doorstep.

I'm sure I have a speculaas recipe somewhere so will try and dig it out! There is website which supplies Dutch products - dutchshop.co.uk if you fancy cheating this year tho!

AussieLou · 10/11/2008 11:24

We ended up combining Australian and Dutch traditions. We have oliebollen (friend dumplings..very swwet and delicious. You can but packet mix), kerststol (like a fruit loaf), speculaas (spice biscuits)and pepernoten and most important...chocolate letters! These are letter in solid chocolate. You usually get the first letter in your name.
I am too lazy to make anything other then the olliebollen so I order everything online too.
We still decorate the house for Christmas and don't do anything other then on the 25th but we know all about Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet etc.

belgo · 10/11/2008 11:29

here are the words and tune (I think) to Sinterklaas kapoentje
Sinterklaas kapoentje,
Gooi wat in mijn schoentje,
Gooi wat in mijn laarsje,
Dank je Sinterklaasje!

Sinterklaasje bonne bonne bonne,
Gooi wat in mijn lege lege tonne,
Gooi wat in mijn laarsje,
Dank je Sinterklaasje!
(c) 2000-2008 Liedjesland.com

belgo · 10/11/2008 11:30

I'm looking for my speculoos recipe but I can't find it! You need to buy speculoos spices for it though.

AussieLou · 10/11/2008 11:52

sorry for my typing. Not sure what friend dumplings are like but I prefer fried ones.

OllieWollieWoo · 10/11/2008 12:50

I've found a website with recipes but its in Dutch! here

hippipotami · 11/11/2008 08:07

Chocolate letters - not that brings back memories
Better try to find some

oopsacoconut · 11/11/2008 20:23

can I hijack and ask where to get chocolate letters from??? we normally go to Holland in mid November shopping but due to having a new baby we are not going this year. It just won't be the same without them - I really want DD to have one for her first Sinterklaas visit. (I will keep it for her so she knows we didn't not give her one just because she was too little, corny I know )

OllieWollieWoo · 11/11/2008 21:05

Think Dutchshop.co.uk had them on their website to order?

oopsacoconut · 11/11/2008 21:54

Only P and S. I am after a P, and an L also the 4.50 handling charge ontop of the £5 per letter is hugely expensive but if I can't find them anywhere else it will have to do.

hippipotami · 12/11/2008 08:00

That is expensive isn't it??
Last year I asked my mum to bring some over from Holland adn she said that it was getting harder and harder to find letters other than S and P. (fine for her, my name begins with a P and my sister with S ) but not so great for my dc who are O and E.
Maybe the chocolate letter is becoming a thing of the past. Shame, we used to love getting 'our' letter.

AussieLou · 12/11/2008 13:37

I Just ordered mine though Holland At Home. The Dutch shop had no variety of letters and I could not pay with a debit card. I just bought 7 letters and some chocolate hail for sandwiches. Delivery included came to about 33 pounds.

hippipotami · 12/11/2008 15:27

Oooh, will have a look there now, thanks Aussie

oopsacoconut · 12/11/2008 17:29

Thanks Aussie - have ordered mine

thirdname · 12/11/2008 18:50

I have my sister or dad sending them by post from Holland. Also gevulde speculaas, luckely no one else in the family likes it. O and what about marsipein!!

TheRealMrsJohnSimm · 18/11/2008 23:31

Thanks everyone

We ordered some things from Holland at Home including the spice mix for speculaas - delivery was very quick - just a few days if anyone is interested in ordering from them.

I went into the boys' school yesterday to talk about Sinterklaas with my kids to their classes. Their english friends are very jealous but we promised to bring pepernoten and stroep in to school to share after his first visit on 30th .

Thanks also for explaining the whole present thing. I think my eldest would be able to get this (he's 8) so will try and do something from him to DH

Yay for Dutchies

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catdebruin · 19/11/2008 15:54

Have just joined Mumsnet and was wondering if there are any Dutch Mums in North London who would like to meet up. My husband is Dutch and we are planning to raise our baby (due on 8 December, just in time for Sinterklaas) bilingually. It would be good to be able to speak Dutch to someone when he is at work ..... We live in Highbury, London, N5

hugeheadofhair · 25/11/2008 21:37

Speculaas spices
I have three different recipes for this:

1
20g cinnamon powder, 10g ground nutmeg, 5g ground cloves, a pinch of cardamom powder

2
30g cinnamon, 10g ground nutmeg, 10g ground mace, 10g ground cloves

3
30g ground cinnamon, 10g ground cloves, 10g ground nutmeg, 5g white pepper, 5g ground aniseed, 5g ground coriander

Speculaas

450 g plain flour
5 tsp baking powder
225 g soft brown sugar
2½ tbsp speculaas spices
350 g butter
50 gr flaked almonds

In a roomy bowl, mix flour, baking powder, sugar and spices. Rub in the butter (cut up with a couple of knives first if very hard). Then, using your hands, knead until you have a soft springy dough. Grease a baking sheet and press the dough onto it to a thickness of about 1-1½ cm. Decorate with the flaked almonds, brush with beaten egg and bake for about 30-40 mins at Gas mark 3. If you want neat squares, cut while still warm.

Marsepein

350 g blanched almonds
500 g icing sugar
1 egg white
2 tsp orange blossom water

Grind the almonds in a food processor until quite fine. Add egg white, icing sugar and orange blossom water (I suppose rose water would work as well) and process a bit more. Wrap in cling film and allow to cool in the fridge for a few hours before using to mould into figurines or squares. Add colours by kneading a few drops of food colouring into the marsepein.

Pepernoten

200 g plain flour
½ tsp baking powder
pinch of salt
150 golden syrup/treacle/stroop
2 tsp cinnamon powder
1 tsp ground clove
1 tsp ground nutmeg
½ tsp ground coriander

Sieve flour and baking powder into a mixing bowl. Make a well in the centre and add the syrup and spices. Stir, incorporating flour from the sides as you go, until you get quite a stiff dough. Grease a baking sheet. Make small balls of the dough (small hands are good for this), put them onto the tray and bake at 160'C for about 15 mins until golden brown and cooked.

Amandelspijs

100 gr blanched almonds
100 gr sugar
1 egg
juice of ½ a lemon

Best made a few weeks in advance. Grind the almonds in a food processor, incorporate the sugar and grind again. Beat the egg and add to the mixture with the lemon juice. Knead thoroughly before wrapping in cling film. Store in the fridge in a covered bowl. Use to make gevulde speculaas and banketletter below).

Banketletter

450 g puff pastry, defrosted
500 g amandelspijs (above)
1 beaten egg

Stack the sheets of puff pastry on top of each other and roll out until you get a square of about 30 x 30 cm. Cut in half and stick together lengthwise (use water) to make a shape of 15 x 60 cm. Mould the amandelspijs into a sausage shape that's 55 cm long. Preheat oven to 200 'C. Put the amandelspijs sausage onto the pastry and fold the pastry around the spijs, sealing as needed with water. Place onto a greased baking sheet, seam down and gently shape into an S or whatever letter you want. Brush with beaten egg and bake in the centre of the oven for about 35 minutes until golden brown etc.

Gevulde speculaas

250 g self-raising flour
salt to taste
2 tbsp speculaas spices
150 g soft brown sugar
150 g butter
2 tbsp milk
300 g amandelspijs
50 g blanched almonds
beaten egg

Put flour, salt, spices and sugar into a bowl and rub in the butter (cut up with two knives first if very hard). Add milk and knead into a dough. Press half of the mixture onto a greased baking sheet (square, heart shape or whatever). Put the amandelspijs on top, leaving a 1 cm gap from the edges. Add the remainder of the dough and press down at the sides to seal in the spijs. Decorate with blanched almonds, brush with beaten egg and bake just below the centre of the oven (about 150'C) for about half an hour to three quarters of an hour.

Taaitaai

Simple version

250 g runny honey
1 egg
350 g plain flour
2 pinches of baking powder
1 tbsp speculaas spices (or 3 tsp cinnamon powder, 1 tsp ground clove, 1 tsp ground nutmeg)
1 tsp ground aniseed
beaten egg to coat

Mix the honey and the egg together, add the rest of the ingredients and knead until you have a supple dough. Wrap in clingfilm and put in the fridge for an hour. Roll out on a floured work surface to about 1 cm and cut out figures or rectangles as wished. Place onto a greased baking sheet, brush with beaten egg if liked, and bake in a hot oven (200'C) for about 10-15 mins.

Rianna · 05/01/2009 09:52

more then decorations: the songs.You could buy , for next year, a cd with the traditional songs.Also, Snterklaas visits the UK , contact the dutch embassy to know where.

Belgianchocolates · 15/01/2009 11:54

I don't think it's tradition to actually bake speculaas and pepernoten yourself. I don't know anyone that does and I don't remember anyone that ever did when I was little too.
I'm Flemish so we do Sinterklaas a bit different, i.e. the 6th of dec is the big day, we don't do chocolate letters or pepernoten, but we do do speculoos or speculaas depending where you live they call it a different name. We have small biscuits called nic-nacs which are just dry biscuits and come either in letter shapes or with a sugar tuft on top.
Sinterklaas decorations don't really exist. The main thing is putting your shoe in front of the fire place with a carrot of beetroot or something in it. As a child I used to insist putting a clog in front of the fire place as I felt that was more 'real'! In Belgium we tend to do that a few days before in the hope he might come a bit early!

Belgianchocolates · 15/01/2009 11:57

Just to add I had a quick look at that Dutchshop.co.uk. Wow: they've got hagelslag AND paprika chips. I might have to place an order, they're my 2 main things I get imported by visitors!

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