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Thunder - what do you tell your children?

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dilemma456 · 28/07/2008 20:22

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ladytophamhatt · 29/07/2008 09:08

Hmmm, I'm sure I remember that from childhood too MB.

Lightening goes up, not down....is that right?

bellabelly · 29/07/2008 09:15

PMSL at Lizinthesticks' "ghostly howitzers" - am going to memorise that one for when the twins are older.

DumbledoresGirl · 29/07/2008 10:23

How come when you see forked lightning, it appears to start at the top and work downwards then?

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wulfstan · 29/07/2008 21:09

At the risk of boring you all senseless

Lightning happens when electrons at the bottom of a cloud travel through the moist air (which acts as a conductor) to earth. They only travel at 60 miles per second which isn't that fast. They don't go straight down, but follow zigzag paths - there's speculation on why they do this (dust and impurities creating regions of air more conductive than other bits) but it's still not known. This group of travelling electrons is called a step leader, and has a purple glow. It's not the actual lightning strike - it's just laying down the road for the lightning to travel.

As the step leader gets near the earth, it repels electrons down into the Earth's surface. This makes the surface of the Earth even more positively charged. The positive charge (called a streamer) migrates upwards through anything above the Earth's surface - like trees and tall buildings.

It's when the stremer contacts the leader that the fun starts - then you've got a complete pathway for the lightning to travel and BANG the contact point between the positive and negative ions moves upwards at 50 000 miles per second. There are several surges - not just one, but they all look like the same one as it happens so fast. It's not the electrons you can see in the lightning strike, but the air: the immensely fast flow of charge between Earth and cloud heats the air around it and makes it expand. This is also the phenomenon behind thunder.

I don't know why lightning appears to go down - I would speculate that it's because most people expect it to be going down. At any rate, it moves so fast that I doubt the eye could detect movement at all. I don't know a definitive answer on this, but I hope the rest helps.

DumbledoresGirl · 29/07/2008 22:16

Thanks Wulfstan.

Not at all bored senseless, but probably not going to be able to repeat a single word of your explanation in 10 seconds' time!

Wallace · 29/07/2008 22:35

thanks wulfstan. I haven't read it.

But I will in the mrning when I am a tad fresher

Then I will attempt to explain to 9 year old!

Bronze · 29/07/2008 22:38

I just tell them the truth at the level of the child. So 5 year old gets a bit more science than two year old who gets oooh look the electricity in the air is sparking isn't it amazing.
Looks up info on silent storms as I keep thinking about them.

fruitful · 29/07/2008 22:42

Dd, aged 5 at the time, asked me what thunder was.
I said clouds bumping together.
Dh said, why don't you explain properly, she can understand.
I said, but I did explain.
Dh snorted his coffee out of his nose, choked, and then explained thunder to both of us.

Well, my dad said it was clouds bumping together and I believed him! So you lot all stop lying to your children, it will be really embarrassing if they still think its removal men when they are 35!

I know, I know, I've been in a plane flying through clouds, I don't know what I thought there was to bump and make a noise ...

[wanders off muttering about big solid clouds]

FAQ · 29/07/2008 22:50

I've never been keen on thunder storms, even as a child (my parents and my DB loved them - and would sit at the window watching them).

Then I moved to Zim and the first day I arrived - a week into the rainy season I saw a small bit in the national newspaper detailng "deaths from lightening strikes this rainy season - 14"..........the figure rose well into 3 figures by the end of the season.

And the storms were terrifying to be out in - and I'm terrified of them properly now.

However, around the DS's I put on a brave face and get "excited" by them

unaccomplishedfattylegalmummy · 29/07/2008 22:53

I told my 5 year old is was clouds banging together, she asked why they banged together I said they were a bit clumsy.

TeeBee · 30/07/2008 13:56

I just say the lightening is when we 'see' the electricity, the thunder is when we 'hear' the electricity. Vaguely correct scientifically, and enough for that age...and not really scary.

champagneandroses · 30/07/2008 14:44

I also tell dd its clouds banging together, but thats because i thought it was

champagneandroses · 30/07/2008 14:46

storing all the correct terms for next time we have a storm so shes properly informed shes 3 and i usually tell her the correct explaination for everything

spinspinsugar · 30/07/2008 15:03

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