Anyone's kids (not autistic) completely non verbal age 2?

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Anyone’s kids with diagnosed apraxia not say anything at all age 2 apart from very rarely a word or animal noise and then never again?

Or did they try to say stuff just not very well and get it sounds mixed up?

My younger DD started talking at 2 years 1 month, by which I mean trying to say words which were understandable by us with a little thought. She had understood what we were saying from around 18 months. With her once the floodgates opened, the talking just got better and better. There were a few mispronunciations - nake pie/steak pie, moke damon/smoked salmon and piss/fish but she grew out of those. I had been getting a bit worried, but it all came right in the end.

Was she babbling or attempting sounds before then?

My mother in law always says that my husband only pointed at what he wanted and said "uh" until he was around 2, but when he did speak it was in full sentences. She thinks it was due to having older siblings who talked for him and got him what he wanted.

DS didn’t talk till nearly 3 and DD didn’t talk till 2years 5 months, she was way behind on her development check and all of a sudden had a speech explosion about a month after, i can now have a conversation with her.

Apraxia would need speech therapy asap, there's some good info about it here https://teachmetotalk.com/category/apraxia/

Yes. Several children who didn't speak until they were 3 who are NT.

my earliest one was my brother. He was 'diagnosed' with 'overly helpful big sister syndrome!!' Basically he had no need to speak as I did everything or asked for everything for him. As soon as I stopped doing that he started talking! (My parents had to tell him to ask/speak not just point at things at first)

One of my godsons didn't speak at all until just before he was 3 & he said 'Daddy can we play with the ball in the garden & we might see the train come soon?' (Train line at the bottom of their garden) we all sat there slack jawed!!

couldn't shut him up after that!!

what age did your DS start walking?

My first had ten ‘words’ at two but eight of them were animals noises. At about two and a half he started talking in full sentences, he never babbled. He also didn’t walk until he was 16 months and then got up and ran! He just didn’t do things until he could do them properly, you wouldn’t notice a difference between him and his peers now at five

Did he have the routine development check between 6 and 12 months where they ask about vocabulary. Has he had the 2 year check. Have you ever mentioned this to health care professionals before.

I was non verbal until 3.5 years old, I'm not NT but I don't have autism (inattentive ADHD).

I started babbling at 18 months, sort of said "Hiya" once, then went fully silent for 2 years.

It turned out to be glue ear on top of a genetic sensorineural deafness combined that made me go from "moderately deaf" to profound. Surgery fixed the glue ear and I got hearing-aids at 3 then started talking at 3.5. from there I caught up quickly and was in mainstream school at the usual age coping fine despite being a summer born.

DD2 had verbal dyspraxia & had no words until 3 & then only about 15 recognisable one. She made sounds & tried to communicate in other ways. Pointing, makaton etc. She started reception & still had a lot of difficulty being understood. She is 13 now & can still struggle to pronounce unfamiliar words & sounds but is totally fine academically. She has no neurodivergence diagnosis but is going to be tested for dyslexia.

Yep! Lots of SALT and therapist didn’t have many concerns about being neurodiverse. Didn’t say a single word until a few months before his 3rd birthday. Just made an “eh eh” sound or screamed! He’s only 3.5 now so still could be neurodiverse but copes well in nursery and is catching up speech wise, now talks in full sentences.

Did he say pop out words? Eg a word clear as a bell randomly but then never again?

He didn’t even babble as a baby? Did he say pop out words? (Words clear as a bell and then never again?)

DLD is a neurodivergent condition.

Neurodivergence includes an incredibly wide range of conditions including DLD, dyslexia and dyspraxia. People seem to use ND as a short hand for autism and/or ADHD but it’s so much broader than that.
https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/identity/autism-and-neurodiversity

Is he immersed in more than 1 language by any chance? Lots of bilingual toddlers have delayed speech before a phase of mixing the two languages and then settling into proper functional bilingualism around 3/4, just before school comes around and knocks one language back.

Go to your local Speech & Language drop in

My recollection is not really
she laughed cried and screamed but I don't remember much "noise" other than that. It was clear she could hear and understood us but I don't remember her making much sound/noise other than that.

@OnTheTopThank for this link. Yes it can be described as a neurodivergent condition but this hasn’t been officially agreed upon. DLD is a neurodevelopmental condition. There are discussions about including it as a neurodivergent condition but no official papers have stated this as far as I know.
See link below
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1460-6984.13009

A few times to start with and then he went completely non verbal but after a looooong time, we had a massive speech explosion and he hasn’t shut up since 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

This gives me so much hope… done try to say stuff but her very frustrated that he couldn’t.?! Sounding strained etc? Were you concerned ?

Oh gosh massively concerned! I spent months and months pouring the internet and trying to work out what on earth to make of it! His speech is still developing but what a difference in behaviour and being able to tell us what is wrong/what he wants. Sending you lots love and good luck! We did the Hanon “more than words” programme that helped as well. Xx

Thanks. I’ll take a look! Did you suspect apraxia?

A family member never babbled at all. Started speaking like a week before turning two and now over a year later is speaking clearly and in full sentences. Never had any issues understanding and if they wanted something it would be a combination of grunting, pointing and hand leading. Is a very social kid.

I did for a while but I went through a phase of suspecting everything and anything to be honest! I just felt very lost and worried x

Ds was speaking fluently and clearly before 2 dd was speaking fluently but completely unintelligibly by 2. Ds is neuro diverse. Dd isn’t. Dd babbled.