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Genuine question: why don't some parents discipline their children?

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JoshandJamie · 18/06/2008 19:10

When my sister's children where young, I distinctly remember her telling me that she didn't like to set boundaries for her children as she felt that it would encourage independence if they learnt their own lessons and learnt to set their own boundaries. As a result she'd never discipline them. As they've grown older, I think she's changed her stance a bit and given she lives abroad I can't really see the result.

However, there's a women who lives in my village who I'd really like to be friends with as I think she's fab. HOWEVER, she seems to follow the philosophy of no discipline for children. I've never asked her why she doesn't discipline them - didn't think it would go down too well. But her son (nearly 3) is a nightmare.

Today he came to our house and was repeatedly naughty. If she tried to say: Don't do that (and she would say as a casual sentence rather than a reprimand) he would growl at her. Two of the top incidents involved him pulling a chair over to our fridge which dispenses water. We were outside. When I noticed my child coming out with water on his shirt I asked what they were up to. There he was standing on the chair holding the water button down so that there was a vast puddle on the floor.

About 15 minutes after than he took a coffee mug that my son (admittedly) had thrown on the grass. I yelled at my son to stop knowing it was a matter of time before it broke in some kind of fun throwing game. The other child immediately picked it up. I asked him to put it down. He just looked at me and raised his arm. I again said firmly: put it down now. He looked at me and flung the mug into the bushes, hitting a tree and causing it to chip.

Mother said nothing. I yelled at him and made him go get it. I then said to mum: sorry for yelling at him but it's not on. She just feigned ignorance.

We've been out before where she's ordered a cup of tea and piece of cake, only to have her son crumble her cake all over the table and into her tea so that she ends up not being able to have either. And during this, she just laughs and says: Oh xx! what are boys like! Ha ha.

I genuinely just don't understand the hands off approach. Surely it just makes life a million times harder? And surely they will just get worse and worse as they get older without ever having been set any boundaries. She constantly says things to me like: Gosh you're so strict. I really don't think I am overly strict - I just don't want my house destroyed on a daily basis.

So if anyone has any insight into what the benefits of this approach are, please enlighten me because my DH has now said he doesn't want the child to play with ours as they pick up on his behaviour. I think it would be a shame not to particularly as they will all go to the same school.

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MadamePlatypus · 20/06/2008 20:46

Re-reading the OP, I think discipline is definitely in the eye of the beholder. In the mug incident, there seems to be a lot of yelling. I think I would just have moved the mug. What is the lesson supposed to be?

"If you go r to somebody's house and they throw a ceramic object onto the grass, and their mummy starts speaking in a loud voice, it's not actually a game, you should return the ceramic object to the nearest adult.

Cf: Balls, football matches, throwing only allowed outside, other people's houses, for variations on this rule."

Is this comprehensible to somebody who isn't yet 3?

hifi · 20/06/2008 20:57

i think some parents adopt this approach before their children join education, then it all goes to pot.

society has norms, we all have to conform to fit in, they will have to re learn at a later stage, which isn't good.

there is a huge gap in children with manners and without, some parents revel in their child not saying please or thank you or sharing. its selfish on the parents part.

also some parents are scared of their children, wont they love/like me anymore?

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