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5 year old DS behaviour issues at school

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JMaggs93 · 17/11/2025 18:58

I'm really just looking for someone else who may be going through the same thing and could offer any advice or just reassurance, I hope.

My son is 5 and started his reception class in September. Since then he has had more bad than good days, behaviour wise. I now dread the school pick up as I expect to be called by his teacher to discuss his behaviour or whatever he has done that day in class. First of all it was him simply not listening and doing his own thing, which I disciplined him for but also didn't worry too much about as moving from nursery to reception has been a big adjustment, they have lots of homework now, more academic work during school hours, his teacher is stricter which honestly I believe he needed. Always been a boisterous, strong willed child but this is becoming an issue now. At home, he listens well to me and only has the occasional day where he is naughty and gets told off. But school seems to be really bothering him at the moment. He has started saying he doesn't want to go as he misses me, but I think it's because he's fed up of being told off. However, I have told him he won't be told off if he behaves as best as he can and listens to the teacher. Recently and today, it's been that he's been running around wildly when they should be sitting and listening, not relinquishing the iPad when he's asked to (this has never been an issue before, only past few days) ignoring his teacher when he's asked not to do something, and apparently today he was trying to leave the classroom which is worrying me as it is out of character. Just generally being disruptive and silly. I'm really torn here. I know I must discipline him for his bad behaviour, and I do every time, such as taking toys away, play time, screen time, no sweets/treats etc, early bed time, today I reached the end of my tether and started putting toys into a bin bag which really upset him but I told him he would not be getting them back until he could behave better at school. I'm also worried that he is rebelling against authority (stricter teacher than at nursery) struggling to concentrate with the work load etc.

For some context, his dad (my ex) hasn't been in touch or had contact since September. It was a messy break up some years ago but we co parented well up until he announced he had a new gf and became hostile, ceased paying child support and let contact with my son fizzle out. My son hasn't expressed upset at this, he hasn't really noticed which is sad (ex wasn't a great dad to begin with) and I think I should stress this to his teacher tomorrow when I go for the parent consultation. Just in case this is something that is causing him to act out in school. It doesn't escape me how much of a coincidence it is that the behaviour issues have begun at the same time his dad checked out.
Past few months I have also noticed my son gets irritated or angry with loud noises and becomes overstimulated. They were practicing for his Christmas play today at school and he told me he wasn't behaving because the hall was too loud.
When the teacher booked the consultation with me last week, she said she would like the ALN coordinator to sit in on the meeting and discuss a few things due to my son's behaviour.
I'm really worried and upset, stressed about it as at first I was defensive but now I'm beginning to think maybe there could be an underlying issue. My son is a good boy, very loving, very polite and caring. He is also excelling in his school work, reading and writing, so it's a shame that his behaviour is overshadowing his potential.
Again, sorry for the lengthy post, just needed to vent a bit, seek some advice or similar situations, as I want to do right by my son and defend and support him as much as I can but also work with the teachers to support him at school.
Thank you.

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Octavia64 · 17/11/2025 23:02

I think it’s worth letting the teacher know about the home situation. This sort of thing can unsettle a child and make settling into a new setting much trickier.

is there anything you can do to make things more positive? Eg starting a home school book and if he has a good day getting a sticker or small toy that he likes? Rather than punishment for if he doesn’t? It can help change the mood music as it were.

lingmerth · 17/11/2025 23:08

It’s always a big transition from nursery to reception but it’s still very play orientated and the only homework should be a reading book.
I think his dad leaving him a second time will have had a huge impact and he’s expressing how sad he is in his behaviour.
You must share this with his teacher so they can support him appropriately.
You know your son best and must advocate for him. Flowers

ChevernyRose · 17/11/2025 23:11

Poor thing. It sounds like he's struggling. He sounds like a sweet boy at home.
Two books that I found useful for behaviour as they used positive methods were Little Angels by Dr Tanya Byron and Divas and Dictators by Charlie Taylor.
I'd tell the teachers everything you've said about his dad and his sweet behaviour at home and him struggling with noise.

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BluntPlumHam · 17/11/2025 23:11

The transition from reception where they still play a lot to year 1 where there isn’t much play at all is hard.

He sounds like an active little boy who wants to still do play and activity.

Are you doing much sit and learning at home? I found that by doing bits of sitting and learning at home helped DC mirror this in school and they knew that when it’s time to learn we sit still and listen.

Try not to be too harsh with him but definitely firm in that we must listen to our teachers and we must follow instructions. Keep repeating the mantra gently albeit firmly to him. Kids need repetition to build good habits.

Outside of school is he getting enough exercise and physical activity? Is he getting enough play at home? Limit screen time and ensure plenty of floor activities and books so that he’s got a creative outlet.

Lastly, ask if SEN can observe him to see if there are any concerns.

Ask if they’d allow you to sit in the classroom for 30 mins in morning to get glimpse of what the environment is like so you can have a better understanding of what your child is dealing with.

The main thing is he doesn’t sound like he has bad behaviour issues it sounds like he’s having a hard time adjusting to a new environment. School and you need to start building some habits, words and routine for him to adjust into the knew way of learning. Patience is key and don’t put all his toys in a bin bag etc that’s just cruel and inflicting emotional harm on him. His little mind and body will struggle to comprehend these large emotions and it will make him rebel. Boundaries are important but without drastic action like that.

Try and see if you can figure out what sort of learner your son is. Is he auditory, visual or touch. Does he learn better with song rhyme etc Use those methods then to help with homework to get him up to date in class. Dc was an auditory learner with lots intonation so I used that to each him how to read rather than the school method per se.

I hope you’re little boy settles in soon x

Snowdrop219 · 17/11/2025 23:23

I think you are underestimating the effect his dad leaving has had on him. Traumatic experiences, including abandonment, can interfere with brain development in children. Disruption in early attachment can lead to problems with behaviour. Read up on trauma and attachment and see if you recognise any of these behaviours.

CountryGirlInTheCity · 17/11/2025 23:27

Hi OP, you sound like a good mum - well done for wanting to work with the school, hopefully you will get a better picture tomorrow at the meeting.

I agree it would be helpful to explain the situation with dad. Although you say he doesn’t seem affected by dad’s absence, perhaps this behaviour is in part down to that. How was your DS in nursery? Did they have any of this kind of behaviour there and if so how was it managed? It would be worth trying to discuss any obvious triggers that they’ve noticed eg when they have to go into the hall/just before lunch/when they’re asked to sit in the carpet - or whatever it might be. If there are no obvious specific things like that ask about friendships and how he’s coping with the work - could it be an attempt to distract from something he’s finding hard for example?

As much as you can at home, try to ‘big up’ positive behaviour - make sure he’s really clear what kind of behaviour they’re looking for and ask them to tell you when he demonstrates that behaviour so you can reward it at home. Starting the day positively with ‘I’m really looking forward to hearing how you’ve done great listening today’ rather than ‘Remember to listen to your teacher or she won’t be pleased’ can help to set a more positive note and gives him the idea that you know he can do it. Maybe try to find a couple of picture books about behaving well in school/good listening etc and read them with him - it may open up conversations about why he’s struggling.

Just to encourage you, my now adult DS was quite a pickle when he was 5/6 and I also came to dread pick-up time. I always worked with the school and was firm at home with clear boundaries but he still used to do silly things. Anyway, he grow out of it, did well at school and is now the loveliest young man ever! Keep going and you will find a way forward.

Good luck!

JMaggs93 · 18/11/2025 10:15

Thank you everyone for your responses!

Just to respond to a few comments; I totally agree with the affect his dad abandoning him again is probably deeper than my son portrays or I realised. I will speak to my son about this in more depth but in such a way that it is a gentle conversation so I can try to understand how he feels about it all. I will also bring his teacher up to speed on everything that has gone on recently so at least she is aware of it all. They knew we were separated and co parenting but unaware that his dad has been absent now.

I should have said that I do indeed praise his good days and positive behaviour; lots of love and reassurance, telling him how proud I am of him and how well he is doing. Even on the bad days I remind him how much I love him and that I just want to see him do well and for him to enjoy himself and have fun at school whilst still being good for the teacher. I admit gathering up some of his toys into a bin bag may have been a bit extreme, I was at the end of my tether and lost my patience after a few weeks of bad days seemingly never ending, but I didn't throw them away just put them into a different room where he couldn't access them. I did tell him he needs to earn them back and if he has a good day today he will have them returned no problem.

I am interested to see what the ALN lady will have to say and I have taken on board your advice about figuring out what may be triggering him and how I can learn to better support him. At Nursery he had about a week right at the beginning where he was a little naughty but not to this extent. He then mellowed out and had no issues, so after thinking about it I believe a combination of his father's absence, the work load at school and the general adjustment period isn't really helping him.
The book recommendations are great as well, thank you. Will look into that asap.

I have the meeting today at 1.30pm. I will post an update after that, but again I appreciate all responses and really am trying my best to help my son and do the right thing, it's been difficult with everything else going on but he is my priority and whatever I can do to help or support, I will try. Thanks again!

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dairydebris · 18/11/2025 10:20

I dont think its appropriate to punish your child for what he did wrong in school at age 5. Throwing his toys in a bin bag ffs?! He's under constant pressure to behave at school at he needs to feel like you've got his back, not get constantly told off at home too.

I'd back the teacher and tell him he must do as teacher wants and school will get easier. But no more punishments. Cuddles, support, talking.

I feel a bit sorry for the kid tbh. He needs to leave school at school. He needs a safe place.

BertieBotts · 18/11/2025 10:26

Will come back to this as my DS is similar. Sounds like the school are on the ball so don't fret! Hopefully you'll be able to get some support in place and things will improve.

Your approach at home is in the right direction but can be tweaked to be more effective. Smile

ChevernyRose · 18/11/2025 10:29

JMaggs93 · 18/11/2025 10:15

Thank you everyone for your responses!

Just to respond to a few comments; I totally agree with the affect his dad abandoning him again is probably deeper than my son portrays or I realised. I will speak to my son about this in more depth but in such a way that it is a gentle conversation so I can try to understand how he feels about it all. I will also bring his teacher up to speed on everything that has gone on recently so at least she is aware of it all. They knew we were separated and co parenting but unaware that his dad has been absent now.

I should have said that I do indeed praise his good days and positive behaviour; lots of love and reassurance, telling him how proud I am of him and how well he is doing. Even on the bad days I remind him how much I love him and that I just want to see him do well and for him to enjoy himself and have fun at school whilst still being good for the teacher. I admit gathering up some of his toys into a bin bag may have been a bit extreme, I was at the end of my tether and lost my patience after a few weeks of bad days seemingly never ending, but I didn't throw them away just put them into a different room where he couldn't access them. I did tell him he needs to earn them back and if he has a good day today he will have them returned no problem.

I am interested to see what the ALN lady will have to say and I have taken on board your advice about figuring out what may be triggering him and how I can learn to better support him. At Nursery he had about a week right at the beginning where he was a little naughty but not to this extent. He then mellowed out and had no issues, so after thinking about it I believe a combination of his father's absence, the work load at school and the general adjustment period isn't really helping him.
The book recommendations are great as well, thank you. Will look into that asap.

I have the meeting today at 1.30pm. I will post an update after that, but again I appreciate all responses and really am trying my best to help my son and do the right thing, it's been difficult with everything else going on but he is my priority and whatever I can do to help or support, I will try. Thanks again!

That's good that you praise good behaviour and are loving. I found praise really helped with reinforcing good behaviour and with developing a good relationship with my now adult dc.

NewCushions · 18/11/2025 10:31

There might well be underlying ND but the departure of his dad and the massive shift at school seems like the big triggers here I'd say. I'm also confused about why there's so much homework etc at school for this age.

I would 100% be talking to the school and explaining.

I'd also be asking what THEY are planning to do to support him. It's all very well you "punishing" him at home for school behaiour but he's 5. It's not that helpful and really, he needs support IN school. Do not let them brush this off as a behaviour problem that YOU need to fix.

If he needs more movement - what can they do to facilitate that? In our school, movement breaks are built in, and often children with this need are th ones in charge of handing out worksheets or putting things away or whatever the case may be. Some children are taken out of the classroom for short periods to do other things.

if he's starting to show signs of sensory overload, again , what can the school do to support (with your help). For example, perhaps headphones for certain activities to make it less overwhelming - you would have to provide those? Another option is different seats - DS needs to sit on the edge of the classroom, not right in the middle of the classroom, for example. My DS could NOT sit on the floor outside and struggled inside - he was allowed to sort of crouch/kneel on the outside of any circles.

DazedandConfused1234 · 18/11/2025 10:58

Hi OP. You have already had loads of good advice already, and I agree with you and PPs that the situation with his Dad may be a big part of his change in behaviour. However, before I got to that part of your post, I was thinking that he sounded so much like my DS at that age. DS was perhaps a bit more trouble before he started school and outside school than yours, but we weren't really concerned with anything until he started Reception. He was constantly in trouble once he got there for too much moving about, not concentrating, annoying other children (maybe your DS doesn't do that) etc etc. We were forever being called by the school for one thing or another.

He is now 8 with a diagnosis of ADHD, and has just started meds which have revolutionised his behaviour at school and other settings (less so at home, but that's where they wear off).

I am not saying your DS has ADHD, but I would suggest keeping an open mind on it if his behaviour continues. In the meantime, the school can help by putting in place interventions like movement breaks, letting hin have fidget toys or wobble cushions, if they help. Whether he is ND or not, these can only be helpful for an active little child.

Also, if you find that punishments and consequences don't make much of a difference to his behaviour, that could be because he really can't help it, which is the case if he is ND (although also, of course, could be because the behaviour relates to his Dad). Wishing you and him all the best.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 18/11/2025 12:39

My first thoughts are poor child. He has two massive changes. His dad out of his life and starting school. He needs to be heard not punished.

Why are you throwing toys away for behaviour that happened at school? Wheres the connection? You're just showing him you can't be trusted. You need to work on connection not punishment. Get curious! Work with the school, but advocate for your child. He doesn't sound naughty he sounds hurt and clearly struggling!

JMaggs93 · 18/11/2025 20:00

I've read the newest responses and just wanted to address a few things;

Those of you coming at me for giving out punishments, I've never claimed to be a perfect parent and doing this on my own has been challenging and also a learning curve for myself. I'll hold my hands up and say I've made plenty of mistakes along the way, including bagging up some of my son's toys, but at no point did I tell him or say here that I would throw them away. I put them into another room where he could not access them. Taking away things a child will take notice of, at the time seemed the only way to get through to him, even before I or the teacher suspected anything ALN related. I am not a cruel parent, just a tired and stressed one trying to teach my son right from wrong in terms of his behaviour at school.
I give as much love, cuddles, reassurance as I can and talk with him at every given chance to try and understand what's going on, how he's feeling, what I can do to help and support him. I have felt guilty about telling him off at home for things he has done at school but to allow him to have his usual treats and toys and screen time, I'm sorry but I don't agree with that as he believes there are then no consequences for his actions.
Also the one comment about him needing a safe space, his home with me is his safe space thank you very much. He opens up to me and we have a brilliant relationship, so I resent that comment. We are both on a learning curve here and nobody ever said parenting is a walk in the park. I love my son more than life itself but if you would rather brush over and molly coddle bad behaviour, good for you and good luck. It doesn't work for everyone.

Had the meeting at school today and feel much better about things; my son is being placed into small focus groups a few times a week to help learn to concentrate, wait his turn and basically focus on something not as demanding as it would be within the entire class setting. If loud/busy times of the day become too much for him, his teacher is going to remove him from the situation to help him calm down and reset. We are all going to work together to support him at home and at school and make the transition easier for him. They are now fully aware of the situation with his dad as well which has given them more understanding of things.
I have another meeting with the ALN coordinator soon to begin to build a profile for my son and try to pinpoint where the triggers are coming from and what can be put in place to support him at these times.
The teacher will also enable more one to one time for him to talk to her, express any emotions he may be feeling etc.

Thank you again for the actual helpful and positive comments, even the pointers and advice. Constructive criticism has also been welcome, just not the 'perfect gentle parents' who clearly believe one size fits all and what works for them will work for every child.

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BertieBotts · 18/11/2025 22:34

I hope your meeting was productive :)

I think everyone has had one of those moments where they exasperatedly give or threaten a much bigger consequence than was warranted. I think I once banned DS1 from screens for an entire month before calming down and realising a, that was just a punishment for me Grin and b, it was unlikely to have much of an effect if I did something for that long - by the end of the month he would have forgotten what he'd even done in the first place!

What I then did was spend some time devising a system of tokens that he could earn for doing various things which I was trying to encourage behaviour wise. The tokens could be exchanged for screen time, rather than allowing free access and then revoking it. I then explained to him that although I had said a month that was not actually fair and I was cross when I said that but this is what we would be doing from now on instead. This system worked really well for us for the next few years, both for encouraging specific behaviours (which is more effective than a general instruction to "behave better") and for managing screen time, which was an issue for us at the time.

I would suggest doing something similar. Either reduce the toy confiscation to a temporary toy suspension (which I saw in a later post you said you'll do anyway) or provide specific, achievable targets in order to earn one back at a time.

Since then I've learned loads more about behaviour management and I think the most important thing I've learned is that rather than increase the severity of a threat/punishment, try moving the target instead. So as I said previously, being more specific about what exactly you want to see change is helpful. TBH with the school issue, you'd need to have that discussion with the school - at his age, it's too much to tell him generally to behave better at school, since he probably won't be able to judge this very well for himself, but you could come up with some specific behaviour targets with them, for example staying in his seat, or following instructions straight away, and then focus on those whichever way you prefer, whether he needs to achieve that objective to get his screen time for the day or if he can achieve it for a full week he gets a small prize at the end, either way. If school are willing to immediately mark the behaviour in the moment with a point/sticker/stamp etc, even better. The other really helpful thing that I learnt was that with consequences it's just as effective if they are small as if they are big. We tend to have this assumption that a bigger consequence will have a bigger impact but apparently that is not true. And the benefit of smaller consequences is that they are more repeatable (e.g. with my example of banning screens for a month, I had effectively just disabled my main consequence and would not have been able to use it for that whole month) but also that they are less likely to kick off a counter-reaction when they are something minor that the child feels mildly inconvenienced by rather than feels is a huge injustice.

If you have made the behaviour aim really clear and either a mild consequence or a reward (including praise) is not working to improve that specific aim, our instinct is often to increase the severity of the consequence but actually this is where the idea of "moving the target" comes in again. So for example if it turns out he really is struggling to sit for the amount of time asked, try reducing the amount of time, adding a movement break, or a wobble cushion, and see if you can find the tipping point where the behaviour starts to improve. Once you're at that point you can stay there for a while to try to strengthen the behaviour you want to see and then slowly stretch it as he gets more used to it, or move on to target something else once sitting is more established.

Some people have mentioned ADHD, my eldest two both have ADHD, only DS2 has really struggled with behaviour at school. "Boisterous and strong-willed" could describe ADHD esp along with the other behaviour, but equally, he could just be 5 and finding the transition a bit much along with the other things going on at home. Give him some time and a bit of support (which it sounds like school are doing everything right, I wish DS2's school was as supportive!) and see how it goes. The only other thing I would suggest for school might be to look at things like a wobble cushion and ear defenders if he is struggling to sit and struggling with sound levels. If the school has them available they may be able to be offered generally to the class so he doesn't feel singled out.

IMO it's fine and important to back up school behaviour reports at home but it's also important that children who are struggling at school don't have that bleed into every aspect of their home life, especially if there is any doubt at all about how much they can actually control the behaviour (and FTR I think there ought to always be a level of doubt here.) I do think it's important for there to be some separation between school and home, some treats/relaxation things etc that are offered unconditionally or earnt by something entirely separate to school.

Overall, it sounds like you have a balanced approach and you'll work this out. The chat I just had with DS2's school said watch out for the last couple of weeks before the Christmas holidays as they ALL lose the plot a bit (but esp any children who were already struggling) but they generally come back a bit fresher and rested in January. So don't tear your hair out if it seems to get worse, this is apparently the time of year for it. Consider giving a vitamin D supplement as it can help their energy/focus levels and help boost them through the darker months.

Gsy · 25/02/2026 18:42

Hi OP,

my son is EXACTLY the same as your son was last year. I find no one gives an update a year later but it would be so so helpful to hear how you and your son are now and what you have done to help. X

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